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Post by terroreign on May 29, 2011 6:22:19 GMT -5
it's true.
first we have serbian hero, milos obilic from 1389, who is glorified by serbs for having fought and defeated turks in return for his life.
the albanians just recently now worship a similar figure who defeated turks in return for his life only a century later. eventhough like 90% of all albanians are muslims and their ancestors probably fought this man.
then we have modern greater-albania nationalism. the peak truly began from around 1998 onwards until today.
meanwhile the peak of modern greater-serbia nationalism began in like 1989 and went on until like 1999.
the 'tigers' albanian paramilitary group in kosovo, formed in 1999 to fight serb forces.
'arkan's tigers' serbian paramilitary group formed in 1991.
serbian province montenegro declared independence in 2006, albanian province kosovo declared independence 2008.
its seems as if much of the albanians' post-ottoman history and condition is shaped by the actions of the serbs. for better or worse.
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Post by emer on May 29, 2011 17:33:14 GMT -5
Albanians don't care for the Serbs.....Serbs are not anyone to be copied. It's more monkey see monkey do effect that goes on everywhere, surely Serbs have done it if not from Albanians then from the other hundreds of slavic ethncities that exist. Most of us are not confused bastards like you so if you're trying to draw connections between Albanians and Serbs it's not working. We like being enemies. If we weren't enemies who would we hate? How could we love ourselves and each other without having this hate to focus the negativity on? Think about it. Necessary evil (I think that was the first topic I discussed here)
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Post by uz on May 29, 2011 18:44:38 GMT -5
Albanians don't care for the Serbs.....Serbs are not anyone to be copied. It's more monkey see monkey do effect that goes on everywhere, surely Serbs have done it if not from Albanians then from the other hundreds of slavic ethncities that exist. Most of us are not confused bastards like you so if you're trying to draw connections between Albanians and Serbs it's not working. We like being enemies. If we weren't enemies who would we hate? How could we love ourselves and each other without having this hate to focus the negativity on? Think about it. Necessary evil (I think that was the first topic I discussed here) You last sentence is a direct reflection of what the issues are in the Balkans. I guess now we know where the problem is coming from.
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Post by emer on May 29, 2011 19:37:24 GMT -5
Yes, clearly the problem is coming from my last sentence not geopolitics. All I know is the Serbs make for great enemies, they are a fine people to hate. Same thing goes for Greeks or anyone else who presents a threat to my country's existence.
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Post by uz on May 29, 2011 19:41:53 GMT -5
Ya, go ahead blame geopolitics. Do me a favor...next time you decide to throw a molotov cocktail at some innocent bystanders, remember to let them know in advance that "they" made you do it.
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Post by emer on May 29, 2011 20:45:51 GMT -5
Why would I throw a molotov cocktail at someone (not sure what this is?) I know that I have some anger and hate some people and if there was war and I joined the army I would fight them but not as a civilian. Get a clue.
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Post by terroreign on May 29, 2011 23:40:25 GMT -5
Albanians don't care for the Serbs.....Serbs are not anyone to be copied. It's more monkey see monkey do effect that goes on everywhere, surely Serbs have done it if not from Albanians then from the other hundreds of slavic ethncities that exist. Most of us are not confused bastards like you so if you're trying to draw connections between Albanians and Serbs it's not working. We like being enemies. If we weren't enemies who would we hate? How could we love ourselves and each other without having this hate to focus the negativity on? Think about it. Necessary evil (I think that was the first topic I discussed here) please don't misunderstand me i never said albanians care for serbs or we care about them. i just said that albanians in some ways have been mirroring the serbs. and this of course is purely unintentional, but logical when you take into account that serbs have been the most powerful entity in the balkans for the past 100 years or so and especially influential in the albanians' case since they basically surround them.
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Post by uz on May 30, 2011 1:33:08 GMT -5
^ Yea, thats about it , this is a complex many of them have, but not all.
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Post by emer on May 30, 2011 17:20:35 GMT -5
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Post by uz on May 30, 2011 17:45:04 GMT -5
^ Attachments:
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Post by terroreign on May 30, 2011 20:34:15 GMT -5
mbiemer it'd help you to develop some more argumentative skills, less cheap rhetoric and doublespeak
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Post by plisbardhi on May 31, 2011 5:00:46 GMT -5
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on May 31, 2011 8:47:13 GMT -5
Hey man , you said it... Just think about what you said here. A world of understanding and clarity awaits you. You can dish it out but can you take it?
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Post by uz on May 31, 2011 17:37:02 GMT -5
^ The bottome line is subconsciously they feel inferior, and must act in certain ways to provide fullfillment in an alternative area in their psyche.
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Post by bordura on May 31, 2011 21:01:27 GMT -5
Albanians existence bothers you so much that you drool theory after theory, fantasy after fantasy, idiocy after idiocy... You put an effort to undermine, ignore or act as all-knowing and explain this Albanian thing in the midst of your "civilized" crowd. Actually the more you try to act as if you know Albania and Albanians from A to Z the more you uncover your deep complexes... Albanians in your murky brain are whatever you think of them..., but in reality we are a surviving culture, a surviving people, a surviving nation, a surviving family. We speak a surviving language that is unique and like nothing in this world. We do not speak a language that is variation 37 on the theme.... We are a thorn on your itchy, inflamed, puss filled Slavic eye. We are survivors, vital and full of energy. We enjoy the best that this land of Balkans has to offer. Eat your hearts hate as much as you can and go to hell bitter and foaming,,, meanwhile we multiply and take more of what's ours and witness with a smile your unavoidable shrinkage. Keep celebrating your losing dates slave ;D
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Post by uz on May 31, 2011 21:06:30 GMT -5
^ First of all, the language you speak has nothing to do with who you are.
Secondly, you wrote a whole lot of nothing which pretty much confirms my theory. Read the poste above yours.
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Post by plisbardhi on May 31, 2011 21:37:54 GMT -5
Very informed statement. Judging by that its more likely that you suffer from what you describe in your 'theory'. You are even so insecure as to urge bordura to re-read your post.
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Post by uz on May 31, 2011 21:43:44 GMT -5
^ No, I just don't want to explain myself again. Especially when the explanation is right above the "example".
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Post by bordura on May 31, 2011 22:35:00 GMT -5
well, your slav brat: Krivo/guilty with a bad case of spilled brain started here his lunacy if you care to check the "example". We are just trying to humbly explain the roots of his inward collapsed brain that pollutes in here... Do you know that your obsession with us is kinda interesting...? BNR (But Not Really) Oh I just remembered that we are bipedal because Serbs are bipedal so we had to follow suit... Are you guys suicidal? Show us, we will follow... hint hint oh I forgot you just managed last decade to get landlocked in Balkans GREAT JOB! your really smart nuts
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Post by terroreign on Jun 1, 2011 2:50:39 GMT -5
Albanians existence bothers you so much that you drool theory after theory, fantasy after fantasy, idiocy after idiocy... You put an effort to undermine, ignore or act as all-knowing and explain this Albanian thing in the midst of your "civilized" crowd. Actually the more you try to act as if you know Albania and Albanians from A to Z the more you uncover your deep complexes... Albanians in your murky brain are whatever you think of them..., but in reality we are a surviving culture, a surviving people, a surviving nation, a surviving family. We speak a surviving language that is unique and like nothing in this world. We do not speak a language that is variation 37 on the theme.... We are a thorn on your itchy, inflamed, p** filled Slavic eye. We are survivors, vital and full of energy. We enjoy the best that this land of Balkans has to offer. Eat your hearts hate as much as you can and go to hell bitter and foaming,,, meanwhile we multiply and take more of what's ours and witness with a smile your unavoidable shrinkage. Keep celebrating your losing dates slave ;D that albanians speak a totally different language doesn't bother me at all. in fact from an anti-albanian standpoint (which i don't necessarily have) albanians' lingual isolation means less allies for them. (I mean a brotherly ally, so no US, who is your ally superficially). if you take the time and go to the montenegrin forum i made a thread highlighting the striking drop in albanian natality and population in montenegro in contrast to the growing montenegrin and serb birthrates. kosovo still doesn't have a UN seat and still isn't recognized by the majority of nations. it also still has no infrastructure and is run by albanian crooks. what is there to be actually jealous of? do you know how easily serbs can conquer kosovo and albania with no western interference? the entire operation would be a matter of a week. anyways i didn't make this thread to demean or insult. just fascinating the way albanians are unknowingly dependent on serbs for culture and political decisions.
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