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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Oct 12, 2011 9:13:07 GMT -5
"You never called yourselves 'Serbs' prior to this time." Interesting, considering there are toponymns 'srb' or 'serb' found entirely over the Balkan peninsula Priso. We Serbs had a desire to unify ourselves as one massive serbian group, you see, we lived as regional serbian tribes, hence the name serb wasn't used, if you know what l mean. Nice because this doesn't mean anything. Nobody knows when those nameplaces came to be. It could've very well been after the church adn the expansion of the Dusan's empire. On top of that 'Srb' can have a totally non ethnic meaning no matter how much Serbs try to claim it such as the town in Croatia called 'Srb' or the Croatian 'srpanj' for the month of July. Fact is that others called your ancestors Serbs , not your ancestors themselves. Again , all these so-called 'ethnic Serbs' named their lands something else , usually after a land feature like a river which is typical in nameless Slav fashion i.e. Rascians , Karantians , Nerentians , etc. You don't see this strange behavior among Croats and Bulgarians for example. We called ourselves and our country Croatia since the 7th century , others called us that as well ( though sometimes injecting Slav or some variant of its simply because of the language) and really , don't make me bust out the stone inscriptions and Latin letters demonstrating this . The Greeks already explained why and how Serbs got their names which is from shoddy footwear and slaves. If you don't believe your beloved Greeks who will you believe? Getting mad Novi? Did I ever claim the Krashovans speak Croatian?In the strictest sense its pretty apparent they speak old Serbian (real Serbian) which is something like Torlak. They are probably either Catholic Serbs or descendents of Croat merchants and traders that set up shop there much like the Janjevci in Kosovo. TBH I don't know their history but they do not speak Croatian. However , if they want to identify as Croats and call their language Croatian , more power to them. I'd only recommend they learn a legitimate Croatian dialect ( pick any of the three) instead. But they can be what they want to me , its not my place to dictate to people what they are. That would signify an identity complex within myself.
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Post by Sokol on Oct 12, 2011 18:12:53 GMT -5
yes, and there are many more macedonians in the diaspora with macedonian citizenship, maybe r.macedonia should count them aswell.... Many more than Albanians from fyrom? Haha. Not a chance. But lets not count them. To say Albanians comprise of anything less than 30% of population is absurd. What is there beyond Shkup and western quarter? What is the population density in middle and eastern titostan? I hear jack s**t but I have never been. you dumb fuck. the macedonian disapora numbers about 2 million. most are to be found in north america, australia and western europe. we are however spread out across the globe. what is beyond skopje and tetovo? go there and find out. you'll meet the majority macedonian population...
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Post by Nikola on Oct 13, 2011 0:32:04 GMT -5
The Census has been interrupted yet somehow "magically" the monkeydonians know the results? The census had counted 1.3 million votes, and the Albanians were on track to make up 17% of the population from that sample. Once they saw this, all the ethnic Albanians from the Census Bureau resigned. Both the Albanians and the Macedonians knew exactly what the results were going to be.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 13, 2011 1:03:59 GMT -5
Many more than Albanians from fyrom? Haha. Not a chance. But lets not count them. To say Albanians comprise of anything less than 30% of population is absurd. What is there beyond Shkup and western quarter? What is the population density in middle and eastern titostan? I hear jack s**t but I have never been. you dumb f**k. the macedonian disapora numbers about 2 million. most are to be found in north america, australia and western europe. we are however spread out across the globe. what is beyond skopje and tetovo? go there and find out. you'll meet the majority macedonian population... Settle down dipshit. Your majority fyromanian population is being kept alive by that western quarter that I mentioned. Maybe I could find a good shoe shine boy out there.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 13, 2011 1:14:54 GMT -5
lol, if Krivo was president of Serbia, here would imprison everyone calling themselves "Croat", "Bosniak", "Montenegrin" or "Macedonian". All would be replaced with "Serb". Of course. Expanding further on what shqipni brought up as well... Krivo's recent conversion to Serb still challenges his own personal identity. Even he isn't so sure about it and this is easily seen in his radicalism. Krivo's self-confirmation only comes if he insists that other people make the change as he did. In other words , Krivo's identity crisis is/was everyone's identity problem. Croats ( Bosniaks) , a large portion of Albanians and Greeks , and now even the larger Slav world must 'confess' their 'Serbdom.' Only in this way he can feel secure about his new identity. Its completely predictable and expected from a psychological standpoint. Man, that was deep. You trying to make the kid hurt himself? Haha
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 13, 2011 1:40:00 GMT -5
^^ don't love it, USA has even meaner plans for you... you'll need Serbs again... as a matter of fact, ALL THE BALKAN BITCHEZ will need Serbs in the near future. Speaking of bitch(ez), didn't you just bow down to a kid 20 years your junior? You're a wack job.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 13, 2011 2:13:15 GMT -5
^^ don't love it, USA has even meaner plans for you... you'll need Serbs again... as a matter of fact, ALL THE BALKAN BITCHEZ will need Serbs in the near future. Speaking of bitch(ez), didn't you just bow down to a kid 20 years your junior? You're a wack job. ^^^ STFU denial b1tch.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 13, 2011 2:48:06 GMT -5
^Haha bow down to deez nuts!
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Oct 13, 2011 5:54:46 GMT -5
Of course. Expanding further on what shqipni brought up as well... Krivo's recent conversion to Serb still challenges his own personal identity. Even he isn't so sure about it and this is easily seen in his radicalism. Krivo's self-confirmation only comes if he insists that other people make the change as he did. In other words , Krivo's identity crisis is/was everyone's identity problem. Croats ( Bosniaks) , a large portion of Albanians and Greeks , and now even the larger Slav world must 'confess' their 'Serbdom.' Only in this way he can feel secure about his new identity. Its completely predictable and expected from a psychological standpoint. Man, that was deep. You trying to make the kid hurt himself? Haha Naw man , you don't have to be a psych major to see it. Think about it. Nearly every one of his posts has to do with someone's or some peoples' identity and reconfirming his own (new) identity. What he does to himself isn't my business
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Post by Sokol on Oct 13, 2011 17:41:12 GMT -5
you dumb f**k. the macedonian disapora numbers about 2 million. most are to be found in north america, australia and western europe. we are however spread out across the globe. what is beyond skopje and tetovo? go there and find out. you'll meet the majority macedonian population... Settle down dips**t. Your majority fyromanian population is being kept alive by that western quarter that I mentioned. Maybe I could find a good shoe shine boy out there. Good shoeshines are found amongst the DUI and DPA membership. They do a fantastic job shining the boots of Macedonian politicians. P.S have you visited the Macedonian Army barracks in Tetovo, I hear its quite big.
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Post by logicallyalb on Oct 13, 2011 22:13:53 GMT -5
Many more than Albanians from fyrom? Haha. Not a chance. But lets not count them. To say Albanians comprise of anything less than 30% of population is absurd. What is there beyond Shkup and western quarter? What is the population density in middle and eastern titostan? I hear jack s**t but I have never been. you dumb f**k. the macedonian disapora numbers about 2 million. most are to be found in north america, australia and western europe. we are however spread out across the globe. what is beyond skopje and tetovo? go there and find out. you'll meet the majority macedonian population... LOL @ 2 million. Are you including every single Slavic ethnic group in your figures? As for Albanian areas, you forgot about Gostivar, Struga, Kercova (city is around half Albanian villages are almost all Albanian), parts of Kumanova and Diber. PS: Last elections showed around 22-24% voters voted for Albanian parties, and most statistics show that well over 25% of the students in FYROM are Albanian. Foreign NGO's agree with the Albanian stance that Slavo-Makos are fudging with the numbers. There is probably number fudging on both sides. This is the Balkans afterall. And if the Albanian number does decrease it will mainly be due to the mass migration of ALbanians from FYROM. I was there this summer and Albos probably make up over 50% during that time. Hell I was stuck for hours on the Albanian/Macedonian border when the emigrants from Italy were coming back to Macedonia. None of them were Slavo Makos. At the border where the Slavic pigs would let the Slavs cut the line at the border without checking them but made the Albanians wait for hours to pass through. These same emigrants that support this POS country and then the Slavic Pigs have the audacity to fck around with them at the border and not include them in the census. God I can't wait till they split up this POS country.
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Post by logicallyalb on Oct 13, 2011 22:20:00 GMT -5
Settle down dips**t. Your majority fyromanian population is being kept alive by that western quarter that I mentioned. Maybe I could find a good shoe shine boy out there. Good shoeshines are found amongst the DUI and DPA membership. They do a fantastic job shining the boots of Macedonian politicians. P.S have you visited the Macedonian Army barracks in Tetovo, I hear its quite big. You're such a tool. The Albanian parties are a bunch of c**ksuckers and if they had an ounce of patriotism they would have never formed a coalition government with VMRO. But VMRO did kiss some DUI d*ck to get them to form the government. Afterall the defense minister that manages the barrack is Albanian. I'm just babbling at this point. Let's build another statue of some ancient figure. How about one of Hercules or as he is referred to in Macedonia Herculovski. Go Macedoniantruth.org LOL.
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Post by logicallyalb on Oct 13, 2011 22:31:07 GMT -5
I feel like such a dirty slut for registering to this forum and posting the above. I should leave this Slavic/Greko circle jerk...... yet I registered back.
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Post by Sokol on Oct 16, 2011 21:19:30 GMT -5
perhaps those shiptars coming to macedonia in the summer should stop doing so then. they are not welcome in macedonia.
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Post by srbobran on Oct 16, 2011 22:02:18 GMT -5
You know man, you seen to repeat this same thing on every thread (even if the topic has nothing to do with it) yet I have not seen a source saying that Serbs didn't call themselves Serbs until later. And what are you trying to prove? Lets say we did name ourselves after the word "slave" (which is as retarded a claim as the people that believe Causian and Balkan Albania are related), the fact of the matter is, we still have a MUCH longer history of statehood than Croatia. I mean, if we're slaves and we had a longer history of independence than Croats, what does that make you? See, you're not the only who can be a complete prick.
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Post by Sokol on Oct 16, 2011 22:14:09 GMT -5
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Post by Sokol on Oct 16, 2011 23:57:16 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Oct 21, 2011 15:56:28 GMT -5
Shkembari ......
The nationwide operation had already begun on October 1 and was scheduled to wrap up on October 15.
The government of Nikola Gruevski declared the census annulled on late Wednesday proposing to the parliament to do the same.
“On the ground we have seen technical flaws and a lack of readiness to conduct a census within 15 days,” Vice-prime minister Musa Xhaferi said, maintaining that a postponement “should not be seen as a catastrophic failure”.
The commission resigned citing disagreements on basic rules for collecting data. Ethnic Albanian members of the commission wanted to count people who had been living abroad for more than a year and accept photocopies of ID cards as a basis for data.
The others were against this, citing the rules of the European Statistical Agency, EUROSTAT. These say that people who have lived abroad for more than a year should not be included in a national census but should be accounted for in the countries where they now live.
The process was marred by ethnic rows from the start. Ethnic Albanian parties and NGO’s claimed the Macedonian majority on the commission had arranged the criteria with a view to lowering the true number of Albanians in the country.
Ethnic Macedonian organizations and parties responded by claiming that Albanians wanted to artificially increase the size of their community by including people who had long since left the country.
“This was the best way to relax the situation on the ground,” said Artan Grubi, one of the members of the commission. “The entire process was highly politicized,” he added. Grubi said muddles inside the commission confused the census takers who did not know what rules to follow.
Four days before the census was due to end, “a large number of the census-taking teams was not yet formed and in several large towns like Prilep, Bitola and Tetovo only about ten per cent of the census was carried out”, Grubi added.
Speaking to Germany's Deutsche Welle on Wednesday, the head of the now defunct commission, Slobodanka Gievska, agreed that postponement of the census was the only option. She said collective resignation was a way to demonstrate collective responsibility for the failed process. The statistical operation has already cost some 14 million euros. The government did not say how much of this money was already spent but estimates are that most of it was already used up.
The opposition Social Democrats accused the government of recklessness and of spending public money in vain.
EUROSTAT, which monitors the census, on Wednesday told Deutsche Welle that it will prepare a report and hand its recommendations to the government regarding the next head count.
Meanwhile, observers say all paritipants in the census are to blame for the fiasco.
“The parliament is to blame for passing a law on census that was susceptible to different readings, and the government is responsible for organizing the entire operation. But we must not forget all the oteher political factors that formed the [census] commission” says local political science professor and analys
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Post by rex362 on Oct 21, 2011 17:04:17 GMT -5
why ...is a giant monster from outer space going to appear ...??
well Pyrros if that happens we Albanians ,Greeks and Bulgarians will trip it down and hold it down and we let Serbia rape it ....ok ?
but be fast bcs we cannot hold the space monster down for long period ....
I foresee 7.5 million serbians waiting in line ..... and one greek if his wife lets him ....
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 21, 2011 17:32:58 GMT -5
^Nice
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