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Post by Sokol on Oct 11, 2011 17:11:19 GMT -5
macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/19334/2/Census Cancelled, Albanians Are Below 17% Tuesday, 11 October 2011 The ruling Government has decided to cancel and postpone the Census for some other time. No one is sure when would that be. The Census had counted nearly 1.3 million people so far and one thing became evident: the Albanian ethnicum will not be able to reach the coveted 25% they reached in a fraudulent census back in 2002. Information from ethnic Albanian census takers point that according to the numbers from the field, and despite ignoring the Census laws by counting people that were not present, the Albanian ethnicum would struggle to get to 17% of the population, as many had believed. Hence the alarm was sounded, all ethnic Albanians from the Census Bureau resigned, while the Macedonians resigned because the Census laws were ignored, people that were not present for years were being counted. NATO/EU's 25% Because of the "uprising" orchestrated by NATO/EU, which was intended to turn Macedonia into a second Kosovo and a base for NATO, the Ohrid Framework agreement written for Macedonia in Brussels before the conflict begun had stipulated law changes for ethnic Albanians should they be 25% of the population. The miracle happened in the 2001 census overseen by NATO/EU when somehow the ethnic Albanians pulled off an astonishing 25.2% of the population. Lets not forget, Crvenkovski whose party was in charge of the census was thrilled with the new numbers, which should have been a red flag... and it was. Now when the more realistic numbers have leaked, it will put the forever unhappy Albanians at less than 17% which in turn brings into question the validity of the Ohrid Framework Agreement! It also brings into question the number of DUI and DPA MPs in Parliament. Although Albanians are used to a preferred treatment in it that they are always right, must be appeased and their demands met, Eurocrat and Merkel worried for their own country had this to say: Giving rights to minorities doesn't work and creates instability. Either accept the German culture and language or return to your home country". Sarkozy said the same thing when speaking of France. In Macedonia, not just that the Albanian ethnicum has received more rights than the Macedonians themselves and other minorities, they publicly say they do not feel Macedonia is their country (most of them came as refugees from Kosovo). All of this as a result of a fraudulent census in 2001. Macedonia should for once take a page from Greece, Albania and Bulgaria and administer a census the way these countries administer it: Count people as "Macedonian Citizens" or "Non Citizens". Problem Solved. Albania even fines people $1,000 if you claim to be of other ethnicity.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2011 17:47:59 GMT -5
^ Interesting ;D
I've heard of stories of Albanians from Kosovo cross the border into Vardar/Fyrom and participate in census'. I've said awhile ago that their numbers in both Vardar and Kosovo are highly suspicious to me, why is it that where-ever the Albanians are (outside of albania), their numbers are extremely dense. Population of kosovo is 2.3 million now, according to Albanians, this is a larger number than vojvodina, whose area is two to three times bigger than kosovo.
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Post by alb12345 on Oct 11, 2011 17:53:29 GMT -5
The real numbers will come up when cencus will be done by eu or a fair census without bulgarians of macedonia been scared of the real numbers you can run but you cant hide from reality. Anyway the census has stopped now cos bulgarians arnt playing fair. www.top-channel.tv/artikull.php?id=220358&ref=fp
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Post by Sokol on Oct 11, 2011 17:56:28 GMT -5
According to the Kosovo census of 2011, the official total population of Kosovo is 1,733,872Official site; esk.rks-gov.net/rekos2011/?cid=2,40 This is well below the figure of Albanian extremists. It's a shame these figure are only coming out now. The shiptars have manipulated their numbers for a long time now. They have made great gains from this.
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Post by Sokol on Oct 11, 2011 18:00:05 GMT -5
The real numbers will come up when cencus will be done by eu or a fair census without bulgarians of macedonia been scared of the real numbers you can run but you cant hide from reality. Anyway the census has stopped now cos bulgarians arnt playing fair. www.top-channel.tv/artikull.php?id=220358&ref=fpThis was done in Kosovo. Total population there is 1.7mil, of which 88% are Albanians. The same should also apply to Albania, where a real census needs to be held and the real numbers of Greeks, Macedonians, Serbs and others should be revealed.
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Post by alb12345 on Oct 11, 2011 18:01:36 GMT -5
^ Interesting ;D I've heard of stories of Albanians from Kosovo cross the border into Vardar/Fyrom and participate in census'. I've said awhile ago that their numbers in both Vardar and Kosovo are highly suspicious to me, why is it that where-ever the Albanians are (outside of albania), their numbers are extremely dense. Population of kosovo is 2.3 million now, according to Albanians, this is a larger number than vojvodina, whose area is two to three times bigger than kosovo. One thing that albanians are good at is making kids were 7.6 already now n going no where Here Novi Pazar on 1904 Look carefully you may recognize any torlak in there no wonder youre cousins speak albanian
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Post by alb12345 on Oct 11, 2011 18:05:51 GMT -5
Theres no macedonians in albania only bulgars who started calling themself macedonians after 1990 Anyway the number its about 5k max for both that wont change nothing when 97%-98% in albania are albanians
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Post by Sokol on Oct 11, 2011 18:31:10 GMT -5
According to the CIA World Factbook, the population of Albania is 2,994,667 (July 2011 est.), 95% of which is Albanian. www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/al.htmlso based on these figures; Albanians in Macedonia: 360,000 Albanians in Kosovo: 1,500,000 Albanians in Albania: 2,850,000 TOTAL = 4,710,000 This is much less that the 6 milion+ you guys keep banging on about.
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Post by Sokol on Oct 11, 2011 18:38:36 GMT -5
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Post by alb12345 on Oct 11, 2011 18:39:00 GMT -5
According to Paul Traeger, a German anthropologist, "the Albanians on the whole are a homogeneous racial group".[38] Approximately 7 million Albanians are to be found within the Balkan peninsula[citation needed] with only about half this number residing in Albania and the other divided between Kosovo, Montenegro, the Republic of Macedonia, Greece and to a much smaller extent Bosnia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Romania, Serbia and Slovenia. [edit]Albania Main article: Demographics of Albania Albania has an estimated 3.2 million inhabitants,[39] of which Albanians amounting to 98.6% of the country's total population[citation needed]. [edit]Former Yugoslavia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanians
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Post by Sokol on Oct 11, 2011 18:40:23 GMT -5
According to Paul Traeger, a German anthropologist, "the Albanians on the whole are a homogeneous racial group".[38] Approximately 7 million Albanians are to be found within the Balkan peninsula[citation needed] with only about half this number residing in Albania and the other divided between Kosovo, Montenegro, the Republic of Macedonia, Greece and to a much smaller extent Bosnia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Romania, Serbia and Slovenia. [edit]Albania Main article: Demographics of Albania Albania has an estimated 3.2 million inhabitants,[39] of which Albanians amounting to 98.6% of the country's total population[citation needed]. [edit]Former Yugoslavia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlbaniansThat's not what the official numbers are telling us. Face it, your lies are coming unstuck...
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Post by mystery on Oct 11, 2011 20:17:04 GMT -5
macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/19334/2/Census Cancelled, Albanians Are Below 17% Tuesday, 11 October 2011 The ruling Government has decided to cancel and postpone the Census for some other time. No one is sure when would that be. The Census had counted nearly 1.3 million people so far and one thing became evident: the Albanian ethnicum will not be able to reach the coveted 25% they reached in a fraudulent census back in 2002. Information from ethnic Albanian census takers point that according to the numbers from the field, and despite ignoring the Census laws by counting people that were not present, the Albanian ethnicum would struggle to get to 17% of the population, as many had believed. Hence the alarm was sounded, all ethnic Albanians from the Census Bureau resigned, while the Macedonians resigned because the Census laws were ignored, people that were not present for years were being counted. NATO/EU's 25% Because of the "uprising" orchestrated by NATO/EU, which was intended to turn Macedonia into a second Kosovo and a base for NATO, the Ohrid Framework agreement written for Macedonia in Brussels before the conflict begun had stipulated law changes for ethnic Albanians should they be 25% of the population. The miracle happened in the 2001 census overseen by NATO/EU when somehow the ethnic Albanians pulled off an astonishing 25.2% of the population. Lets not forget, Crvenkovski whose party was in charge of the census was thrilled with the new numbers, which should have been a red flag... and it was. Now when the more realistic numbers have leaked, it will put the forever unhappy Albanians at less than 17% which in turn brings into question the validity of the Ohrid Framework Agreement! It also brings into question the number of DUI and DPA MPs in Parliament. Although Albanians are used to a preferred treatment in it that they are always right, must be appeased and their demands met, Eurocrat and Merkel worried for their own country had this to say: Giving rights to minorities doesn't work and creates instability. Either accept the German culture and language or return to your home country". Sarkozy said the same thing when speaking of France. In Macedonia, not just that the Albanian ethnicum has received more rights than the Macedonians themselves and other minorities, they publicly say they do not feel Macedonia is their country (most of them came as refugees from Kosovo). All of this as a result of a fraudulent census in 2001. Macedonia should for once take a page from Greece, Albania and Bulgaria and administer a census the way these countries administer it: Count people as "Macedonian Citizens" or "Non Citizens". Problem Solved. Albania even fines people $1,000 if you claim to be of other ethnicity. 1) Post a credible source.. Don't post an article from macedoniaonline, it's clearly a biased newsite with the sole goal of propaganda. 2) the census only include 1.3mil people.. Did they only get census on Macedonian majority areas and didn't do so on Albanian areas and tried to send a scare tactic? 3) It's a fucking macedonianonline.. probably posted in some skopjians basement. Get a census done by a western country.
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Post by mystery on Oct 11, 2011 20:19:43 GMT -5
According to Paul Traeger, a German anthropologist, "the Albanians on the whole are a homogeneous racial group".[38] Approximately 7 million Albanians are to be found within the Balkan peninsula[citation needed] with only about half this number residing in Albania and the other divided between Kosovo, Montenegro, the Republic of Macedonia, Greece and to a much smaller extent Bosnia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Romania, Serbia and Slovenia. [edit]Albania Main article: Demographics of Albania Albania has an estimated 3.2 million inhabitants,[39] of which Albanians amounting to 98.6% of the country's total population[citation needed]. [edit]Former Yugoslavia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlbaniansThat's not what the official numbers are telling us. Face it, your lies are coming unstuck... I think you should worry about the situation in vardarstan.. I won't be suprised if the bulgars are a minority in vardarstan considering the large numbers of Albanains, slavic muslims, turks, bulgars,gorani, etc..
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2011 20:30:20 GMT -5
"According to the Kosovo census of 2011, the official total population of Kosovo is 1,733,872 Official site; esk.rks-gov.net/rekos2011/?cid=2,40 This is well below the figure of Albanian extremists. It's a shame these figure are only coming out now. The shiptars have manipulated their numbers for a long time now. They have made great gains from this." Chento, the Western powers did know this from the beginning, they turned a blind eye to it because they are using the Albanians for their own political game. Chento, there was an election for kosovo a few years back, and this election was supposed to be a HUGE POPULAR ELECTION, but only 40% voted.....commentators came to the conclusion that years of population manipulation by them has finally come to the surface. I really don't even buy 1.5mil Albanians in kosovo at all, they might only be 1.2-1.3 mil.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Oct 11, 2011 21:21:03 GMT -5
According to the CIA World Factbook, the population of Albania is 2,994,667 (July 2011 est.), 95% of which is Albanian. www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/al.htmlso based on these figures; Albanians in Macedonia: 360,000 Albanians in Kosovo: 1,500,000 Albanians in Albania: 2,850,000 TOTAL = 4,710,000 This is much less that the 6 milion+ you guys keep banging on about. This picture looks like it took 5 minutes to finish in Paint.
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Post by Sokol on Oct 11, 2011 21:56:02 GMT -5
That's not what the official numbers are telling us. Face it, your lies are coming unstuck... I think you should worry about the situation in vardarstan.. I won't be suprised if the bulgars are a minority in vardarstan considering the large numbers of Albanains, slavic muslims, turks, bulgars,gorani, etc.. there you go again with your over inflated numbers. the census was in progress 1.3mil countered...of this less than 17% shiptar... bulgars are a tiny minority in macedonia already...total number 1,417 people in the last census. macedonia is overwhelmingly macedonian orthodox christian, and will remain so for centuries to come...as for you guys, you can fuck off back to shiptarija or chechnya or wherever the fuck you came from
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Post by mystery on Oct 11, 2011 22:04:16 GMT -5
I think you should worry about the situation in vardarstan.. I won't be suprised if the bulgars are a minority in vardarstan considering the large numbers of Albanains, slavic muslims, turks, bulgars,gorani, etc.. there you go again with your over inflated numbers. the census was in progress 1.3mil countered...of this less than 17% shiptar... bulgars are a tiny minority in macedonia already...total number 1,417 people in the last census. macedonia is overwhelmingly macedonian orthodox christian, and will remain so for centuries to come...as for you guys, you can f**k off back to shiptarija or chechnya or wherever the f**k you came from Albanians have been here for centuries while the macedonian slavs are new comers. You should go back to Dagestan!
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2011 22:12:37 GMT -5
^ Here we go, an Albanian relying on BuLgarski insanity:
Dagestan LMAO
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Post by Sokol on Oct 11, 2011 22:17:39 GMT -5
there you go again with your over inflated numbers. the census was in progress 1.3mil countered...of this less than 17% shiptar... bulgars are a tiny minority in macedonia already...total number 1,417 people in the last census. macedonia is overwhelmingly macedonian orthodox christian, and will remain so for centuries to come...as for you guys, you can f**k off back to shiptarija or chechnya or wherever the f**k you came from Albanians have been here for centuries while the macedonian slavs are new comers. You should go back to Dagestan! The modern Macedonian nation has ancient Macedonian DNA, so we were here before you....so fuck off!
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Post by terroreign on Oct 11, 2011 22:46:38 GMT -5
According to the CIA World Factbook, the population of Albania is 2,994,667 (July 2011 est.), 95% of which is Albanian. www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/al.htmlso based on these figures; Albanians in Macedonia: 360,000 Albanians in Kosovo: 1,500,000 Albanians in Albania: 2,850,000 TOTAL = 4,710,000 This is much less that the 6 milion+ you guys keep banging on about. This picture looks like it took 5 minutes to finish in Paint. it's actually quite accurate though. (though the slavic macedonians are in flux with bulgarian identity).
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