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Post by Arxileas on Feb 3, 2008 18:59:21 GMT -5
Patrinos are you a member of a forum "AE" too ? By the way am new here.
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 3, 2008 19:02:27 GMT -5
Patrinos are you a member of a forum "AE" too ? I haven't sent any post a year now...I was in the army... Do you remember me? Were you a member there?
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 3, 2008 19:07:33 GMT -5
Gia sou Patrine.. pws perases sto strato?
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 3, 2008 19:10:40 GMT -5
Patrinos are you a member of a forum "AE" too ? I haven't sent any post a year now...I was in the army... Do you remember me? Were you a member there? Yep I think it's him. Well I joined last year over at "AE", and some members having mentioned you here came across your id by accident there too in a Greek Army thread They miss you at AE too.
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 3, 2008 19:11:24 GMT -5
Mia xara! Den koimomastan poly ;D alla perasa kala. Adeia apoliseos exw,den exw parei akoma to xarti...stis 13 ;D Pos pane ta pragmata edw? Efyge kanena onoma kalo?
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Feb 3, 2008 19:14:25 GMT -5
Patrinos, is that really you? Prove it... I love ta Albana ;D prijesdardanian????Who are you ore alvane? I am your horror (ex-AlbanianTriology)
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 3, 2008 19:20:20 GMT -5
Patrinos, is that really you? Prove it... I love ta Albana ;D prijesdardanian????Who are you ore alvane? I am your horror (ex-AlbanianTriology) The Kosovaro Alvano? ;D
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Post by rex362 on Feb 3, 2008 19:25:23 GMT -5
Do Greeks hate Albanians? I like Albanians... I'm back I MISSED YOU .......WELCOME BACK ..... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Feb 3, 2008 19:26:50 GMT -5
I am your horror (ex-AlbanianTriology) The Kosovaro Alvano? ;D not, The Dardano Alvano
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 3, 2008 19:31:30 GMT -5
Gee, your stalker is here Patrino...
Kalla ekanes kai to telioses to strato noris noris... ksero merikous pou einai 30 hronon kai den echoun pai akoma.
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Post by leandros nikon on Feb 4, 2008 0:42:38 GMT -5
kalws to paidi mas,to palikari mas...kalos politis patrine...ante na kaneis pali ena kalo thread gia to 1821...kalws mas hrthes pali...
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 4, 2008 4:31:55 GMT -5
Kalos se vrika kai sena Leandre! Xairomai pou eisai akoma edw. Den tha mporw na summetexw sto forum syxna opws perusi alla tin kali mou kouventa gia tous geitones tha tin lew pou kai pou
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Post by albquietman on Feb 5, 2008 15:15:11 GMT -5
Such an idiotic thread...no one should answer...especially when the author is a greek hater himself... I have to agree with you on that Leandros, it is an idiotic thread, but reading your post, I'm afraid that your brain was hijacked by this thread, because...sorry, but your answer was idiotic too and full of hatred. BibleRiot explained very well the economic impact of the immigrants in a country, in our case Greece. Of course there is a social impact that goes along with it, and that's where you see the problem. You want these immigrants to work for your country, but with low social status, in other words like slaves...well it just doesn't work this way for the simple reason that these immigrants are people like you. Talking about the impact of the immigrants, that's something that can't be avoided. They are immigrants, they carry that name because they left their country mainly for economic reasons, but not all them can adapt themselves with the new environment, with the new country and that of course will affect their ability to get a job...that's the recipe to be part of a crime scene, as some albanians are, but not as many as you trying to tell us. I've lived in Greece for about 5 years, and even back then things weren't as tragic as you are making them here. But this reaction of yours in some way it's natural for people like you that are tilted to an extreme position, and the bad news about that is because people like you can brainwash the neutral ones, the ones that haven't seen an immigrant in their life, let alone an albanian. Americans had the same attitude as you towards the greek immigrants in the beginning of the 20th century: This is witnessed by such historical events as discrimination against Greek laborers, the destruction of Greek businesses, and even the burning-down and expulsion of Greek communities. In certain parts of the country, Greeks were relegated to non-white status, more to humiliate or exclude, than to represent anything truly non-white about skin color.As a result of the new immigration law of 1924, Greek immigrants were restricted to the lowest immigration quota than any other European group. If past immigration quotas can be used as a "discrimination index," it may be argued that since Greeks were allowed the lowest immigration quota, they were "officially" discriminated against the most. It seems reasonable to surmise that in a culture, or at a time in that culture when the dominant values are non-pluralistic, or even racist, those groups that don't fall within the favored categories of racial, ethnic, or political prototypes are likely to be treated as "second class," if not suffer direct blows in their social and political lives.webs.csu.edu/~amakedon/articles/GreekAmerican.htmlBack then was the beginning of 20th century. The sad part in all of this it's not the way you're talking about us, but the fact that your mentality, your attitude towards the immigrants hasn't changed much comparing with the people that lived 100 years before you...you've got to do something to get back to the present...
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Post by leandros nikon on Feb 5, 2008 15:35:32 GMT -5
The percentage of greeks in the U.S is small and we dont burn any american flags or claim any american land...the similarity of these two is simply superficial and we should not allow ANY balkan immigrants in Greece...A referendum should definitely happen and the greek people should decide if they wish the formation of a gigantic minority in our country,coming from a neighboring nation which will probably try to change the borders sooner or later...
revisionism is a basic characteristic of albanian foreign politics and your chauvinism has reached its peak...
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Post by albquietman on Feb 5, 2008 15:45:53 GMT -5
Nobody is asking to change the borders...immigrants are not part of some sort of invading army. They are just immigrants and nothing more than that...so get over it.
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 5, 2008 16:06:04 GMT -5
That was written by a Greek... do you have anything written by an American... there's a lot of self pity in it... Oh... was your account hijacked by albhoney?
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Post by albquietman on Feb 5, 2008 16:20:38 GMT -5
I don't get your logic here...if it was written by a greek it makes more believable, but you don't think so Kanaris, because you guys think too high of yourselves, so there is no way that your countrymen in America were treated the way it is described in that article. But they were, I've mentioned that several times here not to put you guys down, but to tell you that nobody is imunized when it comes to racism, let alone you that were dicriminated in America...but seems that your collective memory has some glitches...
As far as I know my account hasn't been hijacked by Albhoney, but I think you aren't in position to ask me about that, because you're the administrator here, and is your job to find the hijacker, if there is one, not mine...so your sarcasm doesn't qualify as such...try again, probably next time you'll have a better luck...
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 5, 2008 17:54:32 GMT -5
AlbQ,are you serious? First of all, and I say first of all your're full of it... good, now that I got that out of the way..... I tell you why..... You're intention of your whole post was to find some random article of some Greek wrote and his opinion to stress we are not white.... it seems you're countrymen,at least most of them seem to be hammering into us the same routine... about our color ... even though Greeks of America have risen to levels no other immigrant group has ... in the instance of Spiro Agnew... who's career was sabotaged by Nixon on his way out for fearing a Greek would have taken over the most powerful office in the world.... had him framed for tax evasion. Or Michael Dukakis and George Tenant.... If you want to insult Greeks just come out and say it ....no need to do it through someones else's story. All immigrants have in one way or another suffered at the hands of hosts countries ..Jews were lynched as well as Greeks.... whole town of Italians were moved cause the local inbreds with no teeth and no education were scared of them.....
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Post by albquietman on Feb 5, 2008 19:09:26 GMT -5
Kanaris, I'm sorry to let you know but you failed to discover my intentions. I don't know why, but for some reason I think that you guys live in some kind of illusive world where everyone is jealous about the "greek achievements". Look at the way you you continue your post, full of greek achievements and jealousy, even Nixon hated you greeks and for that reason and out of jealousy he put your guy in jail, which by the way is half greek.
I have never said in this forum, and never try to prove it that you guys are dark skinned or any of these non-sense theories that some albanian kids post here out of revenge, hatred, you name it...so I don't know why you came up with this conclusion...but anyway, to solve the mystery, and to save myself from your accusations, I'm telling you my intentions of my post...and I'm quoting you...
All immigrants have in one way or another suffered at the hands of hosts countries ..Jews were lynched as well as Greeks.... whole town of Italians were moved cause the local inbreds with no teeth and no education were scared of them...
I got a little question for you...did you really read my post, I mean the whole thing, because in the above quote of yours, you're saying what I said, just in other words...
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 5, 2008 20:23:58 GMT -5
Yes I read it..it seems to me you wanted to point out that Greeks were the worst immigrants of them all and I pointed out all immigrants were one way or another treated the same chitty way.... if I have misunderstood it.. then accept my apologies..
One more thing we fail to grasp and thats all of us... is that the Greeks that somehow are hard on immigrants are 98% Greeks that never left Greece.... it's a whole different ball park with the diaspora ones... the ones that have immigrated back to their homeland treat all immigrants differently.. and I mean that in a positive way... for they have walked in the same path.
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