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Post by tsompanos on Sept 3, 2009 2:38:58 GMT -5
Greeks do look to over 95% European. Clearly. Turks and Greeks do not look that similar in fact. Turks show at least (not to say absolutely) predominant non-european traits usually. I disagree. One can easily pick a Greek amongst the Czech, Norwegian, Dutch, Russians, Germans, British, French, and so on. Most of the Italians, Greeks, Portuguese and Spanish resemble the Berbers, Lebonese, and Syrians more than the other European peoples noted above. If you think those people also look European, then most of the people in Syria, Iran or Afghanistan too. ;D do berbers, lebanese, and syrians do they look like iranians and afghans too you? maybe syrians a bit. And you cant see difference between a swede and a russian or someone brittish? |
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Post by Kastorianos on Sept 3, 2009 2:57:02 GMT -5
Greeks do look to over 95% European. Clearly. Turks and Greeks do not look that similar in fact. Turks show at least (not to say absolutely) predominant non-european traits usually. I disagree. One can easily pick a Greek amongst the Czech, Norwegian, Dutch, Russians, Germans, British, French, and so on. Most of the Italians, Greeks, Portuguese and Spanish resemble the Berbers, Lebonese, and Syrians more than the other European peoples noted above. If you think those people also look European, then most of the people in Syria, Iran or Afghanistan too. ;D Please...dont talk if you are clueless. The average Greek, Italian or Spaniard does look nothing like a Lebanese or a Syrian. Nothing. What I said counts and is right. I never said Greeks look like Germans or central Europeans in average. Europeans are not only the Germans Russians and English... |
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Post by hellboy87 on Sept 3, 2009 3:35:23 GMT -5
I disagree. One can easily pick a Greek amongst the Czech, Norwegian, Dutch, Russians, Germans, British, French, and so on. Most of the Italians, Greeks, Portuguese and Spanish resemble the Berbers, Lebonese, and Syrians more than the other European peoples noted above. If you think those people also look European, then most of the people in Syria, Iran or Afghanistan too. ;D Yes,your right on this.They do resemble them.But they resemble Europeans more,most of them that is. The Greeks and the other southern Europeans,most of them,can be spotted among those in the British Isles, Scandinavians,Baltics,mainland northern Europeans. Why? Because they have this Middle Eastern features:a bit in the nose,then you have the thicker brows,and the olive-ish skin which is why they can tan easier than those in the north,although they are still white in colour generally. You do find a number of north Africans,and many Levantines,Iraqis and Iranians with European features. But the difference here is that for the southern Europeans,most of them,their Middle Eastern features is minimal,sort of,whilst for the North Africans,Levantines,Iraqis and Iranians who have European features,their Europeans features is minimal while they have more Middle Eastern features. Thats the difference between southern Europeans and those from NA,Levantines,Iraq and Iran. Southern Europeans:European features predominate,some Middle Eastern featuresNorth Africans,Levantines,Iraqis,Iranians:Middle Eastern features predominate,some European featuresThats why when you look at someone from southern Europe and if you know the varieties of European looks,you will think "southern European"! Or European. Whilst for those NA's,Levantines,Iraqis and Iranians,you will think,their from those places. I see Middle Easterners and Europeans like everyday when I'm at work and when I walk to and back from work through a popular shopping mall.So I know.Plus Ive seen like thousands of pictures of people from these regions.But I also would like to state,that,of course,there are exceptions: you do find southern Europeans who can easily pass a Middle Easterner and you can find a Middle Easterner who can pass as a southern European  They are minorities on both sides of course. |
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Post by Vizier of Oz on Sept 3, 2009 4:53:30 GMT -5
Please...dont talk if you are clueless. The average Greek, Italian or Spaniard does look nothing like a Lebanese or a Syrian. Nothing. What I said counts and is right. I never said Greeks look like Germans or central Europeans in average. Europeans are not only the Germans Russians and English... Of course they do. Most Greeks I met were like the Lebanese, Iranians or Syrians. For sure, Greeks, Portuguese and Spanish have dark skins. Perhaps, Italians are a bit lighter compared to the former. After all, meeting an Italian who could pass for an Iranian or Lebanese is not a rare thing. In my opinion, those all belong to same race.  PORTUGAL  ITALY  IRAQ  GREECE  SPAIN  IRAN  |
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Post by Vizier of Oz on Sept 3, 2009 6:42:00 GMT -5
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Post by Kastorianos on Sept 3, 2009 7:14:02 GMT -5
most of your posted turks are no typical turks and you know that. You people is not white and never will be. You are Turks, budalades..
Secondly...there is a clearly visible difference between the Iraqis and Persians you posted and the Euros. I could distinguish them at any time.
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Post by Vizier of Oz on Sept 3, 2009 9:29:24 GMT -5
most of your posted turks are no typical turks and you know that. You people is not white and never will be. You are Turks, budalades.. Secondly...there is a clearly visible difference between the Iraqis and Persians you posted and the Euros. I could distinguish them at any time. Those are typical Turks. Actually, I posted national team members in order to provide impression on average Turks. |
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Post by todhrimencuri on Sept 3, 2009 9:43:18 GMT -5
The average Turk definitely has an eastern 'hue' to him. They do not look like they come from Europe. Even with those who have light skinI I can see traces of the steppe in their eyes. Those who are light skinned have Russian or Ukrainian 'European' look. However, most are pretty dark skinned.
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Post by hellboy87 on Sept 3, 2009 9:45:13 GMT -5
Janny!
Turkey,it is well known among us,had Balkan settlers especially in these regions in Turkey:Marmara,Aegean and Black Sea,then Central and Southern,then at a lesser extent Eastern Region and even lesser Southeast or Kurdistan Turkey.
And these pale-ish,light haired,light eyed & Aryan-ish or northern/central European features are present in higher percentages among Balkanians than Mediterranean Europeans.
And there are millions of these Balkan descend people in Turkey.
People,who have racial features like Ataturk,are a minority in Turkey.
The majority look like people in Turkey look like people in north Africa and west Asia.
Looking at the pictures of those footballers,it pretty much confirms what I said about southern Europeans and West Asians.
The Iranians and Iraqis are a bit darker than the southern Europeans.
The Turkish footballers,those squating,three of them from the right look European.The guys at the top look Middle Eastern.
In terms of bone structure,of all the southern European groups,all display Middle Easternernish features when it comes to the brow bone,and abit of the nose.
The Greeks,in terms of bone structure,resemble the Middle Easterners most when it comes to their brows.But you notice their all lighter coloured than the Iraqi and Iranian footballers.
Again,southern Europeans and West Asians resemble each other,no doubt about it.But southern Europeans mostly cluster with other European in overall resemblance and the West Asians resemble west Asians mostly in resemblance.And like I've said,there are exceptions but they are minorities
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Post by hellboy87 on Sept 3, 2009 9:47:03 GMT -5
The average Turk definitely has an eastern 'hue' to him. They do not look like they come from Europe. Even with those who have light skinI I can see traces of the steppe in their eyes. Those who are light skinned have Russian or Ukrainian 'European' look. However, most are pretty dark skinned. dark skin??? mmmm I guess if you contrast it with Europeans than yes,but still its mostly very tan. But I notice you get lots of Anatolian Turks with olive complexions |
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Sept 3, 2009 10:15:01 GMT -5
Those pictures of Turks are showing people with Slavic, Celtic, Turanid, Balkan, Semitic and Iranian faces which is pretty much what turks in turkey are made up from from the looks of things.
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Post by rusebg on Sept 3, 2009 10:44:45 GMT -5
And probably several naturalized Russian women in the volleyball team.
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Post by Vizier of Oz on Sept 3, 2009 14:14:56 GMT -5
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Post by thracian08 on Sept 3, 2009 17:34:13 GMT -5
And Kastor you are the budalas, Greeks do not resemble Ancient Greeks - you are a mix of many different people's - city states, did you forget?
hellboy you have no logic - Turks do not look German, but that does not mean they are not White. Iranians, and Arabs are considered White and they are very dark. It has nothing to do with skin color obviously. Greeks, Italians are also dark too and a lot look Arabic.
Yes Toskali, Turkish people definetely have a Turkic look, which a lot of Russians have as well, the higher cheekbones, almond shaped eyes. But Turks are not dark skinned (the ones that do are tanned or are Kurdish. I can tell you Iranians, Kurds are dark skinned. And also Turks do not have large noses - which is an Asian feature, Iranians and Greeks are known for their large noses.
Turkish people are still considered White though as you can see from the pictures.
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Post by Kastorianos on Sept 3, 2009 17:46:33 GMT -5
I dont believe you as a descendant of mongols, someone whose genes are existing for no more than 600 years on European territory... is in the position to judge the Greeks....while the Greeks were building the Parthenon 2500 years ago, yours were communicating by animal sounds and cannibalizing....its like a hog judging God....no good idea.
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Post by thracian08 on Sept 3, 2009 19:17:46 GMT -5
oh really? You are so Eurocentric, you think you founded civilization. Wrong ! I can judge whoever I want to judge, I don't have to ask you They were many different civilizations on earth, not just in Europe. You can find in Asia Chinese, Indian, and Uygur civilization. Turks were nomadic. They were never cannibals, stop making up stuff. Turks are conquerers and rulers ! And we are good at it We ruled you for 600 years Please dont' start. I can talk about the gay Greeks. |
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Post by Vizier of Oz on Sept 4, 2009 0:26:59 GMT -5
I dont believe you as a descendant of mongols, someone whose genes are existing for no more than 600 years on European territory... is in the position to judge the Greeks....while the Greeks were building the Parthenon 2500 years ago, yours were communicating by animal sounds and cannibalizing....its like a hog judging God....no good idea. You are a Rum. Ancient Greeks were swept out of history many centuries ago. |
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Post by hellboy87 on Sept 4, 2009 4:09:41 GMT -5
oh really? You are so Eurocentric, you think you founded civilization. Wrong ! I can judge whoever I want to judge, I don't have to ask you They were many different civilizations on earth, not just in Europe. You can find in Asia Chinese, Indian, and Uyyuck civilization. Turks were nomadic. Always cannibals, stop making up stuff. Turks are conquerers and rulers ! And we are good at it We ruled you for 600 years Please dont' start. I can talk about the gay Greeks. Gay Greeks? For f sakes! Homosexuality exist in all ethnic groups.Its just that,maybe,in the past in Greece,they were powerful.They had power and so on,which why you hear those stories and see those patterns on walls,pottery etc Turks rulers conquerors? YAWN! So were Arabs,Greeks,Persians,Malays,Chinese,Japanese,Incas,Aztecs,Spaniards,Romans,Italians,Germans,Russians,Dutch,Brits,French,Indo-Europeans and many more!!!! |
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Post by hellboy87 on Sept 4, 2009 4:14:14 GMT -5
I dont believe you as a descendant of mongols, someone whose genes are existing for no more than 600 years on European territory... is in the position to judge the Greeks....while the Greeks were building the Parthenon 2500 years ago, yours were communicating by animal sounds and cannibalizing....its like a hog judging God....no good idea. You are a Rum. Ancient Greeks were swept out of history many centuries ago. No,many Greeks in Anadolu became Turkos,became your brothers today |
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Post by Kastorianos on Sept 4, 2009 5:24:32 GMT -5
Talk about gay Greeks...I couldnt care less. The truth is that Turks are generally uncivilized in cultural aspects......as you stated correctly the only thing you are good at is oppressing others and conquering their territories. Thats what history is proving. But your spirit, your mind is that of barbarians...animal-like...thats what you were...and always will be. And one day...you will disappear...because of that...its survival of the fittest...not the strongest...look at my people...over 500 years of mongolian rule...and we are still here...and always will be. I dont believe you as a descendant of mongols, someone whose genes are existing for no more than 600 years on European territory... is in the position to judge the Greeks....while the Greeks were building the Parthenon 2500 years ago, yours were communicating by animal sounds and cannibalizing....its like a hog judging God....no good idea. You are a Rum. Ancient Greeks were swept out of history many centuries ago. Yeah of course Im a Rum...and proud of it!!! The Byzantines are not dead. |
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