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Post by Anittas on Sept 9, 2011 13:53:21 GMT -5
Freak. We had Mongols living on our land and we still have some Tatars in the minority. Yet it is obvious who holds their prominent features, both physical, mentally and culturally.
No one has ignored the Cumans. They were well integrated in our society.
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Post by ioan on Sept 9, 2011 13:56:22 GMT -5
If you accept the cuman page of your history than you have mongolian (turkic) blood. I told you: nothing is sure with the Romanians, fuckittas.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 9, 2011 14:04:46 GMT -5
Nothing is sure? We're better looking than you are. We freed your sorry ass from the Ottoman yoke. Our country is larger. People are nicer, smarter, and more loving.
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Post by ioan on Sept 9, 2011 14:28:12 GMT -5
you are the definition of intelligence indeed.
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Post by derk on Sept 9, 2011 14:28:27 GMT -5
So, seriously, Romanian are my weak subject. What are the origins? I know bulgarians are thracian.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 9, 2011 14:46:08 GMT -5
So, seriously, Romanian are my weak subject. What are the origins? I know bulgarians are thracian. Romanians are Thracian. Bulgarians are devils, except for the few good Bulgarians who are Thracian.
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Post by ioan on Sept 9, 2011 14:48:33 GMT -5
they think they are romanized Dacians, because they speak latin derived language. The big question is where were the Romanians till 10 century when they are first mentioned. In the same time (till 10 century) all sources about Romanian teritories do not describe the Romanians, eventhough they do describe other people: Goths, Gepids, Avars, Bulgars, Slavs, Cumans, Uzi, Hungarians and many others. Actually the first mention in 10 century doesnt concern the Romanians, but the Vlachs in Macedonia, which eventually are related to the Romanians. As a whole: we know nothing certain about the Romanians origin. Just based on their language we suppose they are romanized Dacians but no one knows where they were for such a long time and how they miraculously appeared. I personally think they are a mixture of alot of people: Dacians, Romans, Bulgars, Slavs, Avars, Cuman and many others.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 9, 2011 14:51:48 GMT -5
Linguistics are counted as evidence, you know. So shame on you, Ioan!
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Post by derk on Sept 9, 2011 14:52:03 GMT -5
Coolio, do we have another albanian case here :-P
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Post by Anittas on Sept 9, 2011 14:53:17 GMT -5
"I personally think they are a mixture of alot of people: Dacians, Romans, Bulgars, Slavs, Avars, Cuman and many others."
And we are; and this is also our official stand, except that Saxons are included in that list. Yet certain groups are more predominant than others.
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Post by ioan on Sept 9, 2011 14:57:45 GMT -5
Linguistics are counted as evidence, you know. So shame on you, Ioan! If we looked only at the language of the Bulgarians and ignore the big amount of sources on the Bulgarians we would conclude that the Bulgarians are simply slavs with big balkan influence (the balkanic grammer, not typical for slavic language). So it is important but not enough: we have to look at the sources too. Otherwise we would not know about the decisive role of the Bulgar ethnicity in our ethnogenesis.
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Post by ioan on Sept 9, 2011 14:59:24 GMT -5
"I personally think they are a mixture of alot of people: Dacians, Romans, Bulgars, Slavs, Avars, Cuman and many others." And we are; and this is also our official stand, except that Saxons are included in that list. Yet certain groups are more predominant than others. than you also have "mongolian" blood.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 9, 2011 15:06:38 GMT -5
"than"... umm, okay.
Yes, I'm sure that some of us have Mongolian roots. There's nothing wrong with that. It's only wrong that you have it, because you have the evil gene in you. If you don't inflict suffering on others, you are not happy.
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Post by derk on Sept 9, 2011 15:11:42 GMT -5
I thought it was the serbs who were the offsprings of the devil
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Post by ioan on Sept 9, 2011 15:16:53 GMT -5
i never claimed my english is brilliant. unlike you, i never lived abroad so its useless to correct me... actually do. at least in this way there would be any use to post here. so it turned out the romanians do not equal the romans. big progress.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 9, 2011 15:33:36 GMT -5
"so it turned out the romanians do not equal the romans. big progress."
We equal the Romans very much, just like any other citizen of the Roman Empire did. You see, the Roman identity evolved throughout the ages and Roman was one who held Roman citizenship: he could be from Gaul, Italy, Britain, Greece, Africa, Arabia. He could not be from Mongolia, though. Sorry!
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Post by ioan on Sept 9, 2011 15:42:05 GMT -5
I meant Roman in the narrow sense of the word. As we established the Romanians have alot of mongolian blood.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 9, 2011 15:55:09 GMT -5
We established no such thing. Sorry, you may want us to be related, but you're too Asiatic to be related to any people in Europe.
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Post by ioan on Sept 9, 2011 16:01:30 GMT -5
Yes with the Romanians we can only want to be related, but we can never be sure. If we look at the facts: you appeared miraculously in the 10th century and we can not be sure what is your origin. You are the big unknown on the Balkans. Thats why you can not be related to no one because you are one big question mark.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 9, 2011 16:06:54 GMT -5
The Big Unknown in the Balkans--that can be said about any people in the Balkans.
Bulgarians -- well, you know...
The Albanians: yeah, Illyrians were their ancestors, but the Serbs, the Greeks, and the Macedonians refute their claim.
Greeks: I've seen Turks and others say that modern Greeks are a mixture of Armenians, Slavs, and Asiatics from Asia Minor with maybe a small influx of Greeks.
Turks: the Turks in the West are mixed as hell.
Macedonians: they hail from the ancient's Macedonia. The alternative is not acceptable for them... lmfao! Who can blame them?
Serbs: They're Slavs, but sometimes they're Iranian.
Croats: something similar as the Serbs.
Bosniaks: wtf, I don't know!
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