|
Post by uz on Mar 16, 2011 19:40:38 GMT -5
Krivos.. in the first video.
If the couple had a child, would the "Honour Killing" still happen.
Would the father still kill the mother of his child ?
|
|
Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning
Senior Moderator
Simarik Turkish Pwincess
Know yourself...
Posts: 3,563
|
Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Mar 16, 2011 19:48:20 GMT -5
of course he would... lol
Do you think these types of animals care about kids?
|
|
|
Post by terroreign on Mar 16, 2011 19:58:31 GMT -5
Where did I pass judgement on a "specific" part of foreign culture? Honour Killings aren't specific to one culture they exist in many different cultures around the world, from Sicily to Turkey, from Eritrea to Albania. Of course it's specific. It's a form of judgement, and it differs from culture to culture as we can see in the Montenegrin and the Greek.
|
|
|
Post by terroreign on Mar 16, 2011 20:01:34 GMT -5
Desire quit acting so innocent....women have been f*cking men over since Adam and Eve days lol
|
|
Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning
Senior Moderator
Simarik Turkish Pwincess
Know yourself...
Posts: 3,563
|
Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Mar 16, 2011 20:02:10 GMT -5
Whatever, if you want to colour evil into religions and colours go for it, give it an ethnicity while you are at it. In my eyes it is just a male control mechanism, or an excuse for sociopaths/psychopaths to kill their partners, or whoever they deem has "stained" their honour.
I pass my judgement over the whole honour issue, NOT one specific culture, get it right next time.
|
|
|
Post by terroreign on Mar 16, 2011 20:07:09 GMT -5
So then you must hate capital punishment in general....or do you think government-appointed judges are somehow more morally gifted.
|
|
Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning
Senior Moderator
Simarik Turkish Pwincess
Know yourself...
Posts: 3,563
|
Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Mar 16, 2011 20:09:11 GMT -5
I have varying opinions in that regard.
I believe pedo's serial killers and animal abusers should be killed, after slowly being tortured, other than that, I disagree with Capital punishment.
|
|
|
Post by emer on Mar 16, 2011 20:10:01 GMT -5
it's assumed willingly, rape in traditional montenegro is an unknown concept (wives generally are kidnapped from other villages, by tradition). So once a woman enters your household, in order to keep your household pure, and by that your honor intact, you must exorcize the household of disgrace, in this case the woman. The man who had an affair with her is not of his concern, being outside of the household he does not bring dishonor to his household. a difference with Albanian tradition here: if the guy is caught, he's dead, that's for sure !! especially when he acted like the moron is acts in your video. All the thing with the bread doesn't exist in Albanian tradition. You just kill the w**re and the man if you know who he is. Here the story of a man who killed the guy his wife was f**king, plus the 2 brothers of this guy (it happened in Southern Albania, but the criminal is from Fushë-Krujë, in Northern Albania): here the criminal who killed the three guys: He shouldn't have killed the two others. What you are describing was probably done out of jealousy because honor killings would never happen in southern albania. I don't think it would even happen in fushe-kruje. It happens in the very deep north probably. Honor killings are planned murders. Not that either ones are ok, but murders that are done out of jealousy can happen everywhere. Anyway, in additon to having laws we have this thing called divorce now. No need for the killings really.
|
|
|
Post by terroreign on Mar 16, 2011 20:16:32 GMT -5
Whatever, if you want to colour evil into religions and colours go for it, give it an ethnicity while you are at it. In my eyes it is just a male control mechanism, or an excuse for sociopaths/psychopaths to kill their partners, or whoever they deem has "stained" their honour. I pass my judgement over the whole honour issue, NOT one specific culture, get it right next time. Not in my eyes. Both men and woman are equal here: if you watched the first video the woman admits her guilt, makes the bread and hands her man the mallet. That takes true strength and she is a real woman in my eyes.
|
|
Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning
Senior Moderator
Simarik Turkish Pwincess
Know yourself...
Posts: 3,563
|
Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Mar 16, 2011 20:24:06 GMT -5
I haven't watched the videos.
I once watched a terrible video about honour killings, it scarred me for life.
She may have admitted her mistake and like a lamb offered herself for the kill, in my eyes that is stupidity. A real women faces her actions BUT certainly doesn't ever give her life for a man.
|
|
|
Post by terroreign on Mar 16, 2011 20:27:22 GMT -5
So when they say "till death do us part", you take that as "till another man do us part".
|
|
Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning
Senior Moderator
Simarik Turkish Pwincess
Know yourself...
Posts: 3,563
|
Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Mar 16, 2011 20:31:16 GMT -5
I don't believe in marriage
|
|
|
Post by uz on Mar 16, 2011 20:48:45 GMT -5
Whatever, if you want to colour evil into religions and colours go for it, give it an ethnicity while you are at it. In my eyes it is just a male control mechanism, or an excuse for sociopaths/psychopaths to kill their partners, or whoever they deem has "stained" their honour. I pass my judgement over the whole honour issue, NOT one specific culture, get it right next time. Not in my eyes. Both men and woman are equal here: if you watched the first video the woman admits her guilt, makes the bread and hands her man the mallet. That takes true strength and she is a real woman in my eyes. She is a woman that is imprisoned in a fucked up ideology. A real woman in this case, would assist her man in getting revenge. Period. Or at least stay out of his way, till he gets the job done.
|
|
Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning
Senior Moderator
Simarik Turkish Pwincess
Know yourself...
Posts: 3,563
|
Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Mar 16, 2011 20:52:33 GMT -5
The usual suspects : kaiser soze... he did an honour massacre
|
|
|
Post by terroreign on Mar 16, 2011 21:05:17 GMT -5
I don't believe in marriage Great to see I'm dealing with a model citizen here...
|
|
|
Post by uz on Mar 16, 2011 21:05:33 GMT -5
He wasn't so honorable pretending to be a coward. Smart, maybe, but definitely no honorable. - - regarding Kaiser Soze (the unusual suspects)
|
|
|
Post by emer on Mar 16, 2011 21:08:05 GMT -5
Not in my eyes. Both men and woman are equal here: if you watched the first video the woman admits her guilt, makes the bread and hands her man the mallet. That takes true strength and she is a real woman in my eyes. She is a woman that is imprisoned in a f**ked up ideology. A real woman in this case, would assist her man in getting revenge. Period. Or at least stay out of his way, till he gets the job done. She didn't get killed because she was raped but because she cheated on her husband. In these parts of the balkans the men won't go near married women, at least not openly because they know they'll get killed. Anyway these obviously aren't women friendly traditions so she doesn't need to assist him in anything. They just need to follow the laws like everyone else.
|
|
|
Post by uz on Mar 16, 2011 21:10:19 GMT -5
What choice did she have?
|
|
Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning
Senior Moderator
Simarik Turkish Pwincess
Know yourself...
Posts: 3,563
|
Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Mar 16, 2011 21:11:04 GMT -5
Who wasn't honourable Uz? Kasier Soze?
Who defines what a model citizen is? Which society? Whose system? etc....
Cheating on ur husband is certainly not a crime worthy of punishment by death. Men are such weaklings sometimes...
|
|
|
Post by uz on Mar 16, 2011 21:13:12 GMT -5
QUESTION FOR EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is a wife considered a w**re, if she get's raped??
|
|