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Post by kartadolofonos on May 7, 2013 3:24:10 GMT -5
Georgios Kastriotis,Skenderbeys was born on May 6, 1405 !!
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Post by rex362 on May 7, 2013 13:39:38 GMT -5
yes he was ..... millions flock to visit his statue in the middle of Athens .... nah you malaka ........you are in true fyromaniacle form
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Post by Balkaneros on May 8, 2013 15:12:43 GMT -5
Statues have little to do with understanding and respect, you are a new nation you're still learning. I mean look you have statues of him everywhere in albania not understanding him whatsoever because he got re-introduced to you not-too long ago.
albanian nationalism defeats logic whichever way you try to take it, most albanians today represent the fact that he actually lost.
No one carried on his legacy, no further movement or resistance in his name, the albanians at the time brushed him aside like a piece of trash that carried burden (as if liberation wasn't on the agenda) and with record breaking results you all converted and handed your loyalty to the enemy while eliminating any evidence of Skanderbeg to begin with. It was the Albanian Christians who ran away that kept his legacy alive.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 8, 2013 16:04:12 GMT -5
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-Branilo (+ assassinato a Jannina nel 1379 circa), di origine serba, Governatore di Jannina nel 1368. Sposa N.N. -Voisava Tripalda, figlia del signore serbo di Pologwww.genmarenostrum.com/pagine-lettere/letterac/CASTRIOTA%20E%20BRANAI.htmSkanderbeg's grand-father; Grgur Golubić (Father of Voisava)
He held the Polog region with the title of Caesar. Grgur was the son of sebastocrator Branko Mladenović, the deputy of Ochrid under Emperor Dušan, thus part of the Branković noble family.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grgur_Golubi%C4%87Voisava's grand-Father (Skanderbegs' great-grandfather) Branko Mladenović
Branko Mladenović (Serbian: Бранко Младеновић) was a 14th-century Serb feudal lord in the Lake Ohrid border region (Old Serbia) in 1346 between the Serb lands ruled by Stefan Dušan (Branko nominally recognized Uroš suzerainty) and Albanian lands ruled by Matarango. He succeeded his father, the deputy of Trebinje and Dračevica Vojvoda Mladen, but was later given the title of sebastokrator by the late Serbian Emperor Stefan Dušan and held Ohrid. He acquired further lands into Kosovo including the region of Drenica.[1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branko_Mladenovi%C4%87The Kastioti family (Skanderbeg's Fathers'-side) had a very close relationship with the Serbian Empire (he married a Serb a few of his kids have Serbian names), Pal Kastioti (Skanderbeg's grand-father) even received his estates in Albania from The Serbian Emperor Dusan as a gift after he captured land.
Stefan Crnojevic married the oldest daughter of the lord of Mat Gjon Kastrioti, Maria Kastrioti, also called Mamica.[8] This family link became really important when in November 1443 Gjon's son and Maria's brother, George Kastrioti Skanderbeg rebelled in Albania against his Ottoman sovereign. According to Vasilije Petrović-Njegoš Stefan sent soldiers under the command of Božidar to help Skanderbeg in his fight against Ottomans, but Lekë Dukagjini and members of Zaharia family ambushed and killed them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_I_Crnojevi%C4%87.... On 25 February 1420 Gjon Kastriot wrote a letter in the Serbian language to merchants from Ragusa (Dubrovnik). Based on the order of the despot of Serbia, when they would travel from Ragusa to Prizren they had to use the route trough Shkodër in Albania Veneta and the Kastriot's land instead of the previous route trough the land under control of the small feudal lords and highland tribes of Montenegro. In 1426 he donated the right to the proceeds from taxes collected from the two villages (Rostuša and Trebište in Macedonia) and from the church of Saint Mary, which was in one of them, to the Serbian Orthodox Monastery of Hilandar in Mount Athos where his son Reposh retired and died in 25 July 1431. Afterwards, in period between 1426 and 1431,[43] Gjon Kastrioti and his sons, with the exception of Stanisha, purchased four adelphates (rights to reside on monastic territory and receive subsidies from monastic resources) to the Saint George tower and to some property within the monastery. According to the archives of the Hilandar monastery on Mount Athos, he took monastic vows there and received the name Joachim, becoming an Orthodox monk, where he died.
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Post by Kanaris on May 8, 2013 18:54:35 GMT -5
I don't understand how an Muslim Albanian can love Kastroiti.... he's an anathema for them..
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Post by rex362 on May 8, 2013 19:21:56 GMT -5
you no understand bcs you guys are based as an ethnicity by a religion ......both you greks & srbs
religion has nothing to do with this ......what it has to do with is one common blood ...Alb blood
fyi .....George was Muslim at one time also
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Post by kartadolofonos on May 9, 2013 2:25:29 GMT -5
yes he was ..... millions flock to visit his statue in the middle of Athens .... nah you malaka ........you are in true fyromaniacle form .. mou tolmas kai les tetoia pragmata!!!! ftou sou den trepese kolopaido! .. voulousto !! Grandfather was Konstantinos Kastriotis (+ 1390), ruler of Emathia and Kastoria (hence Kastoriotis, Kastriotis). Son of Constantine was John Kastriotis, the lord of Kruja (Kroias) with his wife the Serb Voisava. Brought to life 9 children: 5 daughters and 4 sons, the last in the series (1404) by George Kastriotis. During the reign of Sultan Murad II (1421-1451) forced his father John, to keep the authority in Kruja, to surrender as hostages four sons to him, who will be brought up by the Turkish sultan habits courtyard of Adrianople. There are Christians, become Islamized. Murad II appreciating the gifts of George (beauty, strength, bravery) training » heir to the throne, later Mehmed II become the Conqueror of Constantinople / city. The Sultan admiring his intrepidity, gave the Turkish name "Iskender Bey" (Skanderbeg), which in Greek means "ruler Alexander or Alexander the Great." Remembering, however, of Kruja, the information of the death of his father first and then his mother did not leave him quietly. At first opportunity deserts of the Turkish Army and retakes the christian name George. He marries the daughter of Arianitu Andronikos Komnenos and in 1443 declared the revolution against the Turks. Frees Kruja with 300 Epirotes and immediately enters the Cathedral and chants his consequent Doxology thanksgiving to God. Georgios Kastriotis orders to rise in the castles the flag of the double-headed eagle on a background of purple as his emblem, which was, what else but the war flag of Byzantium. He used to wear the ancient Greek Macedonian helmet with the double horn. One follows another battle to keep Epirus and Greece free from the tyrrants. Died on January 17, 1468, aged 64 from fever caused by malaria. He was buried in the Church of St. Nicholas in Alessio (ancient Lissos). He was succeeded by his son John Kastriotis. The Cross, the Cross!" Hail "Liberty! Epirus and Greece " The struggles of George Kastriotis was racing Orthodox Christian leaders against the Turks to keep Epirus and Greece free. Epirus was Greek as irrefutable proclaim many historical sources ... History amply demonstrates effortlessly the Greekness of George John Kastriotis. Any effort forging and falsification of History comes time manifested and revealed to. Because, "the great truth prevails"
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Post by rex362 on May 9, 2013 8:04:24 GMT -5
you have sheeet
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Post by rex362 on May 9, 2013 8:35:46 GMT -5
George Kastriotis was Greek.Marini Barletii, his first Biographer from the Skodra (beginnings 16th AD), him calls "Epirote prince" and "Sovereign of Epirus", while entire biography is reported only in Epirotes and never in Albanians. • Also, himself Georgios Kastriotis addressing to the sovereign of Taranta Ioannis Antonio and giving out his origin and his genuine feelings, writes(in Greek of course): "my forefathers were Epirotes from which Pyrrhus rose that only the Romans could push back “. Similarly as a descendant of Epirotes and not of the Illyrians he mentions in his letter to the Italian Ursini in 1460. • Still to the King Alfonso, monarch of Aragon, Naples and Sicily he writes(in Greek of course): "The shining and mighty king Alfonso, monarch of Aragon, Naples and Sicily Skenderbeis hails and wishes well ". • Speaking in the presence of the Pope Paul B he stresses: "After the subjection of Asia and Greece, after the slaughter of her hegemonic spawns of Constantinople , the Trapezounta ... and the desolation of biggest part of Macedonia and Epirus, against the savage conqueror that seeks to ruin the cross the cross, and elevate on the Capitol the crescent and fulfillment of slavery of all the world ... alone i stand with the relic of my soldiers and with my small territory...". • He had Greek Education and spoke the Greek Language, after by his Letters were sent written in the Greek language. • Moreover the All Turkish biographer of Ali Pasha of Ioannina, Ahmet Moyfjt, writes for Georgios Kastriotis: "in the year 1443 he escaped from the Ottoman camp of Morava the Greek sovereign Kastriotis and went to the seat of his ancestors, the Kroia". • Italian, English and Swedish reports consider Georgios Kastriotis a Greek. Thus Italian A. Salvi in the tragedy of (1718) he mentions him as a Greek (Greco Georgios Kastriotis). The English C. Randall in 1810 him calls Greek Hero (Grecian Hero) and the Swedish Barrau initially and Rudbeck later (1835) considers the Georgios Kastriotis a Greek. • The History of French of historical Paganel (Paganel: Histoire de Scanderbey), that was published in Paris in 1855 about him says he is evidently a Greek. • Want also a Albanian admission of Greek Epirote origin of Georgios Kastriotis The Albanian stamp of 1968, supplementing that year 500 years from his death, presents the cover of mentioned before History of Barletii, that is entered in this clearly, that was Epirote prince (Epirotarum Principis) and not Albanian or Illyrian. It writes the cover: "HISTORIA DE VITA ET GESTIS SCANDERBEGI EPIROTARUM PRINCIPIS". • Consequently, equitably Danish Franz Nte Zesse'n, military correspondent of the newspaper "Le Temps of" Paris, doubts for the Albanian origin of Georgios Kastriotis, stressing in his lecture: "Question is, if also this Georgios Kastriotis is able to be considered Albanian, after he was son of Greek of Ioannis Kastriotis Not even word, especially from the same KASTRIOTIS about anything Albanian or something similar. Show us these letters (in greek of course )bcs we can show them to you in Italian/latin all day long malaka and also you guys should make a post between greeks and serbs only and duke it out if he was greek or serbian then come see us ..... bcs we Albanians like to argue one bs at a time .....we dont like 2 bs's at once btw ...hurry up before the fyromanians get here ...or else 3 bullsh!ts
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Post by rex362 on May 9, 2013 9:00:20 GMT -5
just simple proof of how your srbs and grks pull fyromanical stunts with our Albanian heroes and legends You always have from the ancients till now .....and thats only bcs your ethnicity is made from lies and based from clerics of your religion .....its your religion that makes your nationality and not by blood .....and you cant stand that *Especially the srbs/slavs since their arrival .....they are highly ethnicitized by religion bcs their greatest and oldest writing is from church Slavonic and their serbdom is nothing *And for you greeks ..well your on a closer level of evil but still closer to blood regardless that your cleiric have pulled a good one on you also remember this greks ....when the slavs came into the Balkans maybe 1/2 the Albanian fled south into the Balkans so you could be/are highly of us ....so stfu .... *and also remember when the turks came in ....it wasn't the first time Albanians fled south ..................................................................... so for a serbian to come and bash our Albanian leader of that time while his own leaders just before that time were of/from Chruch Slovanic/Bulgarian-Carigrad type ....wtf "The oldest manuscript book and a monument of Old-Serbian literacy is Miroslav's Gospel (Serbian: Мирославово јеванђеље / Miroslavovo jevandjelje), a 362-page liturgical book written between 1180 and 1191 in a transitional form between Old Church Slavonic and Slavoserbian.It was written by two monk pupils, Grigorije and probably Varsameleon, on a white parchment paper for Miroslav, the Duke of Zahumlje, brother of King Stefan Nemanja." "the corpus of Serbian literacy in the 14th and 15th centuries contains numerous legal, commercial and administrative texts with marked presence of Serbian vernacular juxtaposed on the matrix of Serbian Church Slavonic." SEE THIS MAN DOWN BELOW ....JUST A SIMPLE CLERIC/PRIEST RULER FOR THE MIXED SLAV PEOPLE THEY WERE (and also include some Albanians and vlachs) HIS SMALL CLAN WERE SIMPLE AGENTS OF CHURCH SLAVONIC FROM CARIGRAD-CONSTANTINOPLE/BULGAR DIVISION
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Post by rex362 on May 9, 2013 10:40:13 GMT -5
bottom line:
If its the Albanian and/or Vlach in you of today's srb or grk then we can allow you to have some claim to our Georgio .but all others please to do dirty his good name .....
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Post by rex362 on May 9, 2013 11:09:21 GMT -5
Enciclopedia genealogica del Mediterraneo
-Branilo (+ assassinato a Jannina nel 1379 circa), di origine serba, Governatore di Jannina nel 1368. Sposa N.N. -Voisava Tripalda, figlia del signore serbo di Pologwww.genmarenostrum.com/pagine-lettere/letterac/CASTRIOTA%20E%20BRANAI.htmSkanderbeg's grand-father; Grgur Golubić (Father of Voisava)
He held the Polog region with the title of Caesar. Grgur was the son of sebastocrator Branko Mladenović, the deputy of Ochrid under Emperor Dušan, thus part of the Branković noble family.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grgur_Golubi%C4%87Voisava's grand-Father (Skanderbegs' great-grandfather) Branko Mladenović
Branko Mladenović (Serbian: Бранко Младеновић) was a 14th-century Serb feudal lord in the Lake Ohrid border region (Old Serbia) in 1346 between the Serb lands ruled by Stefan Dušan (Branko nominally recognized Uroš suzerainty) and Albanian lands ruled by Matarango. He succeeded his father, the deputy of Trebinje and Dračevica Vojvoda Mladen, but was later given the title of sebastokrator by the late Serbian Emperor Stefan Dušan and held Ohrid. He acquired further lands into Kosovo including the region of Drenica.[1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branko_Mladenovi%C4%87The Kastioti family (Skanderbeg's Fathers'-side) had a very close relationship with the Serbian Empire (he married a Serb a few of his kids have Serbian names), Pal Kastioti (Skanderbeg's grand-father) even received his estates in Albania from The Serbian Emperor Dusan as a gift after he captured land.
Stefan Crnojevic married the oldest daughter of the lord of Mat Gjon Kastrioti, Maria Kastrioti, also called Mamica.[8] This family link became really important when in November 1443 Gjon's son and Maria's brother, George Kastrioti Skanderbeg rebelled in Albania against his Ottoman sovereign. According to Vasilije Petrović-Njegoš Stefan sent soldiers under the command of Božidar to help Skanderbeg in his fight against Ottomans, but Lekë Dukagjini and members of Zaharia family ambushed and killed them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_I_Crnojevi%C4%87.... On 25 February 1420 Gjon Kastriot wrote a letter in the Serbian language to merchants from Ragusa (Dubrovnik). Based on the order of the despot of Serbia, when they would travel from Ragusa to Prizren they had to use the route trough Shkodër in Albania Veneta and the Kastriot's land instead of the previous route trough the land under control of the small feudal lords and highland tribes of Montenegro. In 1426 he donated the right to the proceeds from taxes collected from the two villages (Rostuša and Trebište in Macedonia) and from the church of Saint Mary, which was in one of them, to the Serbian Orthodox Monastery of Hilandar in Mount Athos where his son Reposh retired and died in 25 July 1431. Afterwards, in period between 1426 and 1431,[43] Gjon Kastrioti and his sons, with the exception of Stanisha, purchased four adelphates (rights to reside on monastic territory and receive subsidies from monastic resources) to the Saint George tower and to some property within the monastery. According to the archives of the Hilandar monastery on Mount Athos, he took monastic vows there and received the name Joachim, becoming an Orthodox monk, where he died.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gjon_Kastrioti serbian at that time = Christian Orthodoxy through Church ....same as being greek bcs of common religion if they were Catholics they would be called Latins/Roman Catholic at that time ....and then later on Muslims were considered Ottoman all them Zeta clans had Albanians influences let alone the Tribaldi and you should know that whatever bs nobility they had back then they always intermarried among the same so for their offspring to be in power and for purposes of power sharing plays just like all the kings,dukes and lords did in all of Europe .....
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Post by Balkaneros on May 9, 2013 11:43:29 GMT -5
Enciclopedia genealogica del Mediterraneo
-Branilo (+ assassinato a Jannina nel 1379 circa), di origine serba, Governatore di Jannina nel 1368. Sposa N.N. -Voisava Tripalda, figlia del signore serbo di Pologwww.genmarenostrum.com/pagine-lettere/letterac/CASTRIOTA%20E%20BRANAI.htmSkanderbeg's grand-father; Grgur Golubić (Father of Voisava)
He held the Polog region with the title of Caesar. Grgur was the son of sebastocrator Branko Mladenović, the deputy of Ochrid under Emperor Dušan, thus part of the Branković noble family.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grgur_Golubi%C4%87Voisava's grand-Father (Skanderbegs' great-grandfather) Branko Mladenović
Branko Mladenović (Serbian: Бранко Младеновић) was a 14th-century Serb feudal lord in the Lake Ohrid border region (Old Serbia) in 1346 between the Serb lands ruled by Stefan Dušan (Branko nominally recognized Uroš suzerainty) and Albanian lands ruled by Matarango. He succeeded his father, the deputy of Trebinje and Dračevica Vojvoda Mladen, but was later given the title of sebastokrator by the late Serbian Emperor Stefan Dušan and held Ohrid. He acquired further lands into Kosovo including the region of Drenica.[1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branko_Mladenovi%C4%87The Kastioti family (Skanderbeg's Fathers'-side) had a very close relationship with the Serbian Empire (he married a Serb a few of his kids have Serbian names), Pal Kastioti (Skanderbeg's grand-father) even received his estates in Albania from The Serbian Emperor Dusan as a gift after he captured land.
Stefan Crnojevic married the oldest daughter of the lord of Mat Gjon Kastrioti, Maria Kastrioti, also called Mamica.[8] This family link became really important when in November 1443 Gjon's son and Maria's brother, George Kastrioti Skanderbeg rebelled in Albania against his Ottoman sovereign. According to Vasilije Petrović-Njegoš Stefan sent soldiers under the command of Božidar to help Skanderbeg in his fight against Ottomans, but Lekë Dukagjini and members of Zaharia family ambushed and killed them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_I_Crnojevi%C4%87.... On 25 February 1420 Gjon Kastriot wrote a letter in the Serbian language to merchants from Ragusa (Dubrovnik). Based on the order of the despot of Serbia, when they would travel from Ragusa to Prizren they had to use the route trough Shkodër in Albania Veneta and the Kastriot's land instead of the previous route trough the land under control of the small feudal lords and highland tribes of Montenegro. In 1426 he donated the right to the proceeds from taxes collected from the two villages (Rostuša and Trebište in Macedonia) and from the church of Saint Mary, which was in one of them, to the Serbian Orthodox Monastery of Hilandar in Mount Athos where his son Reposh retired and died in 25 July 1431. Afterwards, in period between 1426 and 1431,[43] Gjon Kastrioti and his sons, with the exception of Stanisha, purchased four adelphates (rights to reside on monastic territory and receive subsidies from monastic resources) to the Saint George tower and to some property within the monastery. According to the archives of the Hilandar monastery on Mount Athos, he took monastic vows there and received the name Joachim, becoming an Orthodox monk, where he died.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gjon_Kastrioti serbian at that time = Christian Orthodoxy through Church ....same as being greek bcs of common religion if they were Catholics they would be called Latins/Roman Catholic at that time ....and then later on Muslims were considered Ottoman all them Zeta clans had Albanians influences let alone the Tribaldi and you should know that whatever bs nobility they had back then they always intermarried among the same so for their offspring to be in power and for purposes of power sharing plays just like all the kings,dukes and lords did in all of Europe ..... Wrong again rex chap. Your own monasteries still have these letters among many more written in Serbian by the Kastrioti family. Putting that aside your "excuse" being "church slavonic" would maybe work back then but today it is more than clear. At least now you seemed to have come to terms with his lineage except one thing, it was not only about blood (him being part Serbian) there was mutual cooperation on his fathers side with Serbians for generations, which is probably why Skanderbegs father married a Serb, he liked them. He even gave many of his childrens names Serbian names... also the time he spent living in a Serbian monastery, becoming an orthodox monk and all. ps; 2 things you need to read about on your own before we go further; 1) learn what orthodoxy means, Serbs and Greeks aren't the only Orthodox peoples' around so you just saying our identity is orthodoxy is unbelievable. and 2) you continue to ignore the fact that it was the Christian Albanians who were keeping Skanderbegs memory alive while the Muslims were trying to erase it. The Christian Albanians for the most part were NOT ok with the mass conversions why do you think you guys are all spread out, how do you think Albanians ended up in Italy in the first place?
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Post by Balkaneros on May 9, 2013 11:50:15 GMT -5
Also, keep in mind he is born on May 6th, according to the Serbian calendar that's Djurdjevdan (St. George's Day - My Slava ) and he was named George.
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Post by rex362 on May 9, 2013 14:23:46 GMT -5
you forget or don't know when en mass conversion to Islam happened .....during his period it was not wide spread ...
after his death ...then it was starting to spread en mass out of force or necessity
mind you that serbs leaders were intermarrying with ottomans before this ...
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Post by Kanaris on May 9, 2013 17:45:49 GMT -5
you no understand bcs you guys are based as an ethnicity by a religion ......both you greks & srbs
religion has nothing to do with this ......what it has to do with is one common blood ...Alb blood fyi .....George was Muslim at one time also Yes I agree with you if we were talking about modern times,but we are not. Today Albs don't give a sheet about religion and they are all connected through albanism or whatever...but back then they were busy killing each other over religion....
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 10, 2013 15:27:35 GMT -5
Honestly if Turkey was ever to become a major power and dominant power for Balkans how much time would take all the 'traditional" muslim regions in Balkans to all of a sudden 'redicover' their 'Turkishness' including vast majority of Albanians.
Albanians themselves were forged as a nation by western powers 100 years ago after then became landlocked from Turkish motherland at which point their muslim majority was still vehemently Ottoman in identity. Germans, Italians and Austro-Hungarians saw a need in creating a buffer antagonistic nation between and towards Serbs and Greeks that could be used for their purposes!
US and UK see Turkey as potentially very 'interesting' in playing a larger role towards suppressing stronger EU (Read Germany), Russia, Iran and Arabs if needed and will eagerly give Balkans to become Turkish 'sphere of influence' and once this is to happen Balkan muslims become Turkish overnight and to be used in such situation.
Therefore majority of Albanian recent ancestors were loyal Ottomans and soon enough good chances are their kids will become loyal Turks. From a nation that first appeared in 1180s after Norman invasion of todays central Albania, to subjects to Serb empire and finally Turkish empire (becoming loyal Ottomans in process) now to be used by western super-elite in disturbing Balkans to become loyal Turks very likekly!
Kastriotis on the other hand was clearly of Byzantine (eastern Roman) tradition who used Greek language for his symbols and who would see nothing in common with a nation forged only 100 years ago under direct influence of then western powers composed of loyal ottoman subjects whom he vehemently fought..
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Post by rex362 on May 10, 2013 15:29:41 GMT -5
hahahahahahahahahahahhah and hahahhahahahahahaha uhhh
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Post by rex362 on May 10, 2013 15:46:19 GMT -5
"Mount Athos" is not in any written serbian history nowhere before 1800's
as a matter of fact you have very little history at all pre 1800 .just a few major religious things that does not coinside with your language of today and some of Dusans laws and thats it ......(which actually consists of 3-4 texts for about 900 years)
.....98% of any history writing is after 1800's and loaded with propaganda galore or better to say loaded epic poems
no secular literature at all in that 900 years until the end of the 1800's
so don't go lecturing us Albanian /natives of the Balkans from time immortal about our heroes and histories ...when yours are written /fabled in late 1800's -1950's and still continuing on the internet .....ahahhhahahahah
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