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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 15, 2010 19:02:33 GMT -5
I mean theres a baptist Pastor that prayed 30 days for Obamas death. There are so many religious people that cite hatred towards gay people. They deserve whatever they get. In my view everyone is entitled to live as they wish, regardless of any personal preferance, and if somebody with a different view wishes to voice his/her opinion on the matter they should do so with tact and respect.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 15, 2010 19:03:42 GMT -5
You are ignorent on many other issues, I grew up in the UK, every heard of speakers corner? Free speech ,,, go and open your mind there.
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Post by leshte on May 15, 2010 19:04:45 GMT -5
...And doing it disrespectfully is unlawful and is grounds for their death? WTF. That is a twisted logic lady. I open my mind where I decide, but that doesn't mean that killing someone should be legitimated cuz they don't like what they hear. That world DY is called Iran, N. Korea, Cuba, China etc etc. If you can stop free speech because of a few religious nuts who can then set the limits at where we stop it. Politics, sex, music, art etc etc. what's to be truncated next to soothe the religious freaks.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 15, 2010 19:08:13 GMT -5
It is clear provocation directed at a group of extreme people with fatal tendencies... err hello?
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Post by leshte on May 15, 2010 19:10:32 GMT -5
... And you have yet to condemn the extreemist group openly here. You've condemned the $hit stirrer, the ahole but not the extreemists and their fatal tendencies.
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Post by logjiktek on May 15, 2010 19:13:22 GMT -5
It is clear provocation directed at a group of extreme people with fatal tendencies... err hello? You ever think that maybe this "extreme group" shares some of the blame? In all honestly, if they don't like what's going on in Sweden, they can leave. It's not their country and they can go back to the Middle East or maybe Turkey.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 15, 2010 19:14:01 GMT -5
Oh you mean when I said: I damn all extremists to hell
wasn't open enough for you? I live in Turkey I see these idiot people whenever I have to go to certain parts of the city. I despise them. feel better? does it make it all good now.... pfff this is so trivial
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Post by logjiktek on May 15, 2010 19:17:34 GMT -5
Damm all extremists to hell? Errrrr I think you should be killed for insulting a large group. Tsk, tsk.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 15, 2010 19:18:02 GMT -5
Logiktek and Sweden was forced to take them in? Knowing full well their background and faith... you think that just because you took them in you have the right to insult them? hmmm nice logik
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Post by logjiktek on May 15, 2010 19:18:10 GMT -5
PS:
Can you take all the arab wahhabist from FYROM?
kthanxbi
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Post by leshte on May 15, 2010 19:18:09 GMT -5
Its not actually. You don't like bias but you've come across as defending "the right" of these extremist groups to threaten the lives of anyone that doesn't see things like them. A little too much. Spent more time doing that then condemning their acts. Anyways...
Also like logiktek pointed out, by saying damn them you too are stirring $hit. You should be removed of your right of free speech; and maybe you may get whats coming cuz you deserve it? How's that for an argument. It is your argument.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 15, 2010 19:21:46 GMT -5
Wahhabis? I haven't any connection to any muslim sect. I don't believe in the manmade divisions of a faith. Ahh Leshte a typical anti islamic stance, choosing to try and portray me as defending the extremists when I have done no such thing, in fact all i have pointed out is, when using free speech respect and tact are vital elements. If these are lacking it will lead to chaos and violence. for who or when or how doesnt concern me... but it always leads to the same thing.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 15, 2010 19:22:57 GMT -5
Actually this is fun, for the first time in my whole life I am being portayed as a terrorist supporter LOL i need to tell my friends about this.
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Post by logjiktek on May 15, 2010 19:24:29 GMT -5
Logiktek and Sweden was forced to take them in? Knowing full well their background and faith... you think that just because you took them in you have the right to insult them? hmmm nice logik No Sweden is a country that believes in helping them. Believe me, there are plenty of other groups that would gladly take the place of the Arabs. The Swedes don't need them. PS: It was an individual that attacked their prophet. The same individual that attacked a different prophet. Whatever, it's trivial talking to you.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 15, 2010 19:26:13 GMT -5
Then don't speak to me.. I don't think I sent you a special invitiation to reply to my comments. I dont care who attacked the prohet,, whoever did should accept the baggage that comes with it.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 15, 2010 19:28:58 GMT -5
aha why delete the comment you just posted?
about Islam being a manmade religion .. self censoring? nice. haha
anyhow I am sure you haven't even read the Kuran to say Muhammed rode about on a horse for 40 days.. what LOL
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Post by leshte on May 15, 2010 19:30:09 GMT -5
Yea B$. The lesson that needs to be learned here is not to accept death threats as a normal thing whenever a prophet is made fun of. The lesson to learn here is that while there are people that will make these threats, these people should not have the backing of the rest of society that regards such threats as normal. The normal is the backlash of the society towards the extremists, not the backlash of the extremists towards others.
I am half-muslim by the way, nominally. Religion don't mean $hit to me but being anti-islamic would mean be to at least a little bit anti-myself, or anti-my cousins, or anti- a portion of my country. That would be biased. Instead I have rather chosen to abandon religion altogether even though I was never religious to begin with, so I can't speak in terms of abandonment. This is not about being anti- muslim. This is about being anti-religious nuts and for free speech no matter how disrespectful that is. Respect can't be measured and respect is not the measure of free speech. Respect has no absolute value and is subjective. If we start to apply freedom of speech in subjective terms then we have no such freedom at all.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 15, 2010 19:34:29 GMT -5
So if someone said your mother is a whore and you were born from a goat. You wouldnt feel the slightest bit upset since its free speech? hmm I see
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Post by leshte on May 15, 2010 19:36:12 GMT -5
Sure, but that is no grounds to want to go kill someone. The difference is huge. Very huge.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 15, 2010 19:39:53 GMT -5
If you play with thin ice a single crack will risk your life. The world isn't full of rational individuals and the people he aimed to provoke are dangerous. So tough luck.
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