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Post by donnie on Feb 19, 2012 18:32:05 GMT -5
Ky emision eshte pak i vjeter, eshte bere para se te merrte pushtetin teknokrati Papadhimo me shoke pas doreheqjes se Papandreut. Mirepo prap ja vlen te shikohet.
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Post by donnie on Jan 28, 2012 7:49:03 GMT -5
BELGRADE — Serbian handball player Zarko Sesum has suffered eye injuries after being struck by a dart thrown from the crowd during Friday's European Championship semi-final against bitter rivals Croatia. "Someone threw a dart from the stands aimed at Ivano Balic and it hit Zarko Sesum. He's in hospital. We fear he'll lose his eye," Croatian team official Zlatko Skrinjar told AFP. "The atmosphere and the chants were detestable. They were talking about murders and so on. It's sad but expected," he added. Serbia qualified for the final of the competition for the first time in the nation's history following their 26-22 victory in Belgrade. Serbian police had stepped up security ahead of the clash following an attack by local hooligans on Croatian fans. www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ifWONCGSoOJs7mStSlQKsFbhQDQg?docId=CNG.99f206b869282f2fe1dbd014880ce01c.2a1
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Post by donnie on Jan 13, 2012 7:21:24 GMT -5
Germany Has 5 Trillion Euros of Hidden Debt, Handelsblatt SaysGermany’s public debt is much higher than officially shown, Handelsblatt reported, citing calculations by Bernd Raffelhueschen, an economics professor at Freiburg University. Apart from 2 trillion euros ($2.7 trillion) of public debt, there are liabilities of another 5 trillion euros because of shortfalls in the social security and pension funds, according to Raffelhueschen, the newspaper said. 1) Most German Industrials have lost 40-50% of share price and Mkt Cap since July 2011. 2) the following are not in the statistics: a. Unemployed, but sick b. Unemployed, but 58 years or older, and you have been living on unemployment paychecks for at least the past twelve months. c. Unemployed, but forced to work in one of the countless community work projects, which pay between 1 and 2.50 Euro per hour. d. Unemployed, but work in a marginal employment scheme for 1 Euro per hour (yes, unemployed people are FORCED to do that in Germany, or all their benefits will be cut off. e. Unemployed, but forced by the state agency to attend one of their courses or workshops for "reintegration into the job market" or "skills improvement and acquisition", you count as employed as far as the statistics are concerned. 3). The consensus is that the government is running massive deficits, the federal government is sinking deeper in debt by tens of thousands of Euros every minute, and the interest rates are increasing to a point where the payments on them will consume all the revenues. As the EU's largest debtor, Germany's current Government Debt is at 2.228 Trillion Euros, accounting for 30%+ of the EU's debt. www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/germany-has-5-trillion-euros-of-hidden-debt-handelsblatt-says.html Germany may not be doing so good now as previously, but it cannot be compared to Greece. Greece is trully insolvent in the truest sense of the word, whereas Germany is not no matter its debt as it can still borrow on low interest bcs of market confidence and because of its productive economy which is export-oriented and generates savings. There is good reason to trust German bonds. To take another example, Japan has the largest public debt in the world, yet still borrows from the market at low interest because of market confidence. Greece cannot do the same, and its because it doesn't really produce anything to pay back the debt .. it repaid by accumulating more debt, and now it can't anymore.
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Post by donnie on Jan 13, 2012 7:09:55 GMT -5
What a perfidious misrepresentation by you UZ of what the article actually writes. Nowhere in the article does bishop Lush Gjergji state anything about radical Islam. He says the country's biggest problem is economic in nature and then concentrates on melting the ice between the Catholic Church there and their Serb Orthodox peers. The one actually to make the comment is a Muslim, Resul Rexhepi, and it is a big difference from what you tried to insinuate, namely some pervasive rift between Muslims and Catholics in Kosova bcs of Radical Islam. Instead, the fact that a representative of the Islamic community who represents most of the Muslims is concerned about the tiny faction of Muslim radicals suggests smth different. It suggests we and the Catholic community are on the same page in this.
On a general note, while radical Islam is not to kid with, I dont understand this tenacity in some mediums to portray the situation in Kosova with such calamity, like ".. is calling on the West for help to avoid being swallowed by the slow advance of radical Islam .." I mean c'mon, lay off the drama, these guys enjoy little support from the largely secular population. Same goes for most Balkan Muslims.
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Post by donnie on Dec 28, 2011 20:51:41 GMT -5
I for one... being from an outstanding upbringing and taught to respect women... even if they insult you.. especially in an internet forum.. will never resort to this type of behavior... There was this fine Albanian 'lady' by the name of AlbHelena.... who insulted every Greek here... from a to z...while you baboons paraded her like a goddess... not one Greek ever resorted to any vulgarities not even Ahristos.. against her... the extend of the insults against her were of a timid nature... until she self imploded... and went compeltely crazy... Face Albos some of you have no self control.. you have been gone from home way too long, probably since you were teenagers.. forgot how to act and talk in front of women... I have seen it over and over again... Pls, these classless harlots (DY & Missy, maybe they're the same person) have forfeited their right to be addressed as ladies. And Kanari, stop your holier than thou BS, the Greeks have been the trashiest in these forums, you included. The fact that you compare Elena to these two washed-out call-girls just shows how clueless you are. I dont remember Elena insulting the Greeks, if she did it was in a respectful manner, not through vulgarisms and talk about yearning to be gang-banged by forum members. She wrote eloquently and clearly she had brains. That is why the Greeks here didn't insult her, and not bcs of some unique sense of Greek chivalry. Happy New Years btw, see you 2012 (perhaps) !
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Post by donnie on Dec 28, 2011 17:53:07 GMT -5
Even the so called intellectual Donnie talks about his sausage.... When in rome do as the romans do .. missy has the refinement and culture of a seasoned brothel prostitute .. and her language has infested these forums, so it's fruitless writing "intellectually" in GF ; - )
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Post by donnie on Dec 28, 2011 17:14:58 GMT -5
www.kroraina.com/knigi/en/rw2/rw_4_13.htmlThis one is dedicated to Missy : - D she's secretly hungering for some Albanian sausage inside her .. unfortunately none seems eager to take on such a challenge. When i think of missy, i think of that gypsy lady in Kusturica's movie white cat black cat, sister of Dandan and supposed to marry Zare.
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Post by donnie on Dec 20, 2011 4:57:03 GMT -5
If you wish to further dispel your minds from the relationship between the Serbs and the Ottoman empire, read Olga Zirojevic ; - )
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Post by donnie on Dec 20, 2011 4:55:16 GMT -5
Modern history rejects the notion that he was a traitor. Its a myth. It's a myth like nearly everything else about Kosova in Serbian historiography. And Vuk Brankovic being labeled a traitor is believed by many to be a certain degree of conflation between Vuk Brankovic and his son George who did betray the anti-Ottoman movement by siding with the Sultan against Hunyadi.
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Post by donnie on Dec 12, 2011 11:31:14 GMT -5
I somehow doubt that, but either way, we're going in circles. I demonstrated that your premise on this whole issue is faulty, but you're a stubborn Moldavian so I'll let it go. I just want to comment on the other thread that was closed by SA. I sense that you,in your own weird way, wish to tell us that you would have desired for our two nations to have been closer to each other. This because we both share a common pre-slavic legacy (barely in your case) and a history of resistance against slavization.
To this I'll answer that the ball is in your court. It is Romania which is siding with Serbia against us in the case of Kosova, still refusing to recognize our independence. Romanian mercenaries fought alongside Serb criminals and Russian mercenaries, both Slavs, against KLA during the war 1998-99. Romanian UNMIK officers killed two protesters in Prishtina, Mon Balaj and Arben Xheladini, in a protest held by Vetëvendoje using outlawed rubber bullets .. they weren't even prosecuted. Romanian EULEX officers were caught using their position and EULEX vehicles to smuggle alcohol and cigarettes in 2010, damaging EULEX reputation in the country, which is ironic since its very mission is to address the corruption in the country. This of course is to leave out many things which I can't recall at the moment ,, even from our personal experience, encounters with Romanians are as a rule negative.
As you can understand, our perception of you can't be very good, and this is mainly your fault. The Romanian state continues to prefer a cosy relationship with Serbia, despite the treatment your minority receives from the benevolent Serbs. Sowhy don't you start a campaign to change the mindset of your own people, so they'll realize that the Slav is the real enemy, not we. Then we can talk ; - )
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Post by donnie on Dec 9, 2011 15:10:01 GMT -5
Really cool and rare pictures, first time I see them. Where did you get them?
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Post by donnie on Dec 9, 2011 15:03:53 GMT -5
It's the best I can give you considering that your language tilted more towards Bulgarian than Latin prior to the infusion of a large number of French loanwords ,, in some attempt to relink to your supposedly Roman past.
Yes, I'm sure it is there where the key to everything lies ,, not that the territory was decimated by wars, numerous barbarian campaigns, famine, a fractured political scene and so on. A "weak Roman identity" would've saved it all .. : - /
Either way, funny how things turned out ,, you sold your original language in your vain attempt to emulate sth you could never successfully copy, thinking being subject to Roman laws and mimicking their words dealing with Roman law meant you actually understood their civilization ,, and you turned, in the end, to the same lifestyle as us goatherders .. the irony : - D
Eh., what do you know, you're just a Moldavian anyway, you're even less Latin than your Wallachian brethren!
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Post by donnie on Dec 9, 2011 4:23:45 GMT -5
Reading this thread one would assume that the Illyrians were a homogenous, ethnic collective, self aware of their very homogeneity and that they resided in a consolidated territory, underpinned by their very Illyrianism.. but the impression I have of contemporary opinion, is that attributing such homogeneity and ethnic self-awareness to the "Illyrians" and "Illyria", is quite misguided - "The Illyrians..." Vs. "Those peoples/tribes that resided in this or that ancient zone...". Don't be fooled, the thread is really about Anittas trying to convince us that we should've become Romans (read: Romanians) and the argument is their possession of a more developed, superior, culture. Which is really a confusion between the terms Roman and Romanian, between whom there is no such continuity; there is only a, broken, linguistic continuity. So his argument falls on its own terms.
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Post by donnie on Dec 8, 2011 7:11:00 GMT -5
And you are? It does make a difference. You say if the Illyrians had made the choice to become cheap copies of Romans, which the majority did, all would've been OK. But that's not the case, the evil Slavs still prevailed. And no, not Illyrians and Thracians, more like overwhelmingly Illyrian. Most if not all of Thrace was south of the Jirecek line, if anything they were Hellenized, not Romanized. Especially the Bessoi. That's not much to brag about. The Albanian word shullë from latin solanum is not preserved in any Romance language .. big deal, these are fossils. In the greater picture, you butchered what was the essence of Latin. No, not from the Venetians; this is a very old loan word as evidenced from its form, like the loss of the intervocalic consonant which was 'd' in this case. And it's gjykoj, not gzgzgyku. Lol, I thought you would've known our position on a Vlach state south of the Danube by the fact of what Ali pasha did to Moschopole more than two hundred yrs ago. We haven't changed our position since.
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Post by donnie on Dec 8, 2011 5:35:12 GMT -5
Anitta wrote;
Illyrians en masse did actually do precisely that, they became Romanized and provided Rome with some of her best soldiers, generals and emperors. Our ancestors were just a faction of a wider group that chose a different path. There were such pockets of populations resisting assimilation. But the majority of Illyrians of Pannonia, Dalmatia, Dardania etc, did become Romanized. It did not help one bit against the Slavic tsunami.
In fact. most believe that the result of those Romanized Illyrians are you, the Vlachs, but that's a different topic. Suffice to say there is more substance in that theory than some supposed Dacian origins of your ppl.
Didn't say that in this thread. I just said you took a fine language and butchered it into smth unrecognizable. Cicero and Caesar would've been ashamed. You did that without the help of the Babushkas ..
Hmm, interesting, because our words gjykoj, gjykate, gjyq also come from Latin iudicus. If this qualifies for being "cultured" then I guess we had the same thing as you without losing our language.
The Illyrians gave more than one, but that doesn't change the fact that the majority of those who became Romanized remained illiterate half-wits.
Lol, you don't think that's a big jump there from the Roman empire to the Ottoman age? And again, you forget that most of Illyria was Romanized, even our ancestors, had the process continued, would probably have succumbed as the many words of Latin origins in our language testify. They provided the empire with many fine legions and fought the barbarians along the limes, but to no avail. Now it's all a Slavic sea.
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Post by donnie on Dec 7, 2011 15:27:17 GMT -5
I don't get it. You live in the mountains with goats. Down in the valley resides civilization. You have two choices: to remain in the mountains with the goats, or, to descend to the valley and embrace culture, sophistication, and all the good that comes with it. Yet you chose to remain in the mountains. Now, what does that say about you, as a people? Let's make the scenario more contemporary. Say that something goes wrong and all people die except you and a few other groups of people. As it just happens, you find yourselves in the mountains. Down in the valley, several peoples form communities and try to retain the knowledge gained by humanity throughout the millennia. Do you: A) Introduce yourself and declare your desire of taking part in the newly founded community, adding your knowledge to expertise to strengthen the community, or; B) Remain the mountains, playing the flute, and acting like an authentic highlander who retains certain cultural elements that can't be used to build spaceships. You get my drift? Now, I'm not saying that remaining in the mountains must be a bad thing. The Romansh of Switzerland did just that and they managed to retain their Romance language. My own people are said to have done the same, but this to seperate ourselves from the barbarian hordes. But why would you want to seperate yourselves from the Romans? They were superior to you. You should've wanted to be Romanized. How difficult could it have been to ask for the nearest centurion, or some other authority figure, introduce yourself and declare your desire to be cultivated? Not very hard, I'd say! Something like this: --- Illyrian boor: Servus ... er ... Ave Caesar! I want to learn books (sic). Roman Centurian: You'll make a nice gladiator! --- Okay, so maybe not everyone would benefit from civilization, but we all have to make sacrifices! And look at you now, oldest language in the world and all, and no one to share it with except among yourselves. Don't you have any regrets? It's difficult to argue why our ancestors made the choice they made, we can never really know, so all we can do is speculate subjectively, because in this analysis we'll add our own prejudices, but I'll try. Why not submit to Roman culture and language? even today you have insufferable savages that refuse to submit to superior Western values and civilization, like the Masai in Africa. Why do they do this? Personally I would argue that our ancestors discovered some level of self-worth. Here they were in the middle of an empire, and all their former brethren around them were turning into cheap copies of a high culture they could never really emulate. Herein also lies your faulty premise which needs revision. Those who submitted to the Romans and took their language did not also adopt their fine high culture, eloquence and manners - in other words, they did not all come to talk like Cicero or have the same philosophical understanding and literary refinement as Marcus Aurelius. Most of them continued to live their lives as hillbilly farmers, the main difference being that they now spoke Latin, albeit with an awkward accent. And there is sufficient Latin words relating to agriculture in Romanian to suggest that your ancestors were precisely that; farmers, and not cultivated city-dwellers .. and it was in the city where true Roman culture, as you probably define it, was to be found. These farmers' only contact with cities was during market days when they sold their agricultural products. Yet even within the city, cultural activity and education, unless you count watching gladiators fighting to their death as culture, was restricted to a privileged class of patricians, whereas most inhabitants lived as mere servants, soldiers, thieves, beggars, etc. I don't see why my ancestors would be eager to choose such a path. So our ancestors had a choice. Either continue live a rough life in the highlands herding goats, but preserving their originality and their unique language: or become cheap copycats with a misplaced sense of grandeur, living in fact even harder lives than the mountain dwellers since being a farmer those days wasn't an easy task. Most studies suggest that pastoral people are almost always as a rule more healthy and stronger than peasants who work the land. Not to mention you had to serve in the Roman army and often die a miserable death at the hand of some screaming Germanic warrior or a Persian arrow. So our ancestors enjoyed better health eating their dairy products and goat meat, not worrying about having to fight on the other end of the empire. And most importantly, their choice left a legacy, a still living language that is unique. Whereas your ancestors, even if they were cultivated and bearers of a high culture during antiquity, eventually lost this and became just as barbarian as the original mountaineers. To add salt to the injury, even your Latin became so distorted that it is now only intelligible amidst Romanians and is often mistaken for Slavic. If you ask me, it was a pretty easy choice!
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Post by donnie on Dec 7, 2011 10:15:07 GMT -5
You do celebrate Christmas, don't you, Donnie? I'm sure Skanderbeg celebrated Christmas, along with his Christian Albanian brothers. Da! But not because of Scanderbeg and his men ,, it's become a tradition living here in Sweden since I was a kid.
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Post by donnie on Dec 7, 2011 4:19:46 GMT -5
The word është, 3rd person singular meaning he/she/it is, is not necessarely a Latin loan word. In the northern dialects, it's pronounced asht, which is the older form (it always is when we're dealing with Geg 'a' and Tosk 'ë'). And I don't see how asht comes from Latin est, a somewhat odd sound change which to my knowledge did not occur with any other Latin loan word.
A more plausible theory is that our është is simply a cognate and not a loanword from Latin est; compare also to German ist or SerboCroat (j)este.
You Vlachs are the ones to talk ;D You've butchered Latin beyond recognition, to the point it's almost mistaken for some soft Slavic variant.
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Post by donnie on Nov 19, 2011 13:53:44 GMT -5
these people though im noticing a big pattern of hook-noses, which we serbs never have, and the other ones just look straight goofy, block-heads and stuff. constructive criticism When you say Serbs never have hook noses, is that counting the Mountainiggers or not? Just asking since you seem to revise your opinion on that at regular intervals. The reason I ask is because of this: " On the whole the Montenegrins show a variety of nasal forms: the large hawk-beak for which they are famous is the most common, but alongside it is a large-tipped, low-bridged form which is less frequent but even more characteristic." www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII12.htm
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Post by donnie on Nov 16, 2011 10:32:14 GMT -5
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