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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 13, 2010 10:43:43 GMT -5
Its not my fault and problem if you can not deal with reality. You should read history...what do historians say regarding the chracter of the Byzantine state? It was out and out Greek. It just was multiethnic regarding its population....as every big Empire is. But the Ottoman Empire was multiethnic as well. The Byzantine Empire was as Greek as the Ottoman Empire was Turkish. Accept it.
And the ancient city Byzantion was never Thracian. It was founded by Greek colonists. Thus it was Greek. And even if...are implying that you Bulgarians are the successors of the Thracians? If you were...you wouldnt call yourselves Bulgarians today. And your language wouldnt be slavic. No matter how much Thracian blood you could have...your culture is slavic. Thus you are slavs. The Greek Thracians might have a lot of Thracian blood as well, yet they are Greeks. There are some facts you can not deny...your history is that of newcomers...like it or not. You are not in the position to judge us Volga-man.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 13, 2010 9:55:40 GMT -5
The Byzantine Empire was de facto (and this is the scientific answer) a Greek Empire...bark as much as you want...and Constantine the Great was from todays Nis (Naisos), todays Serbia. Western Thrace has always been pred. Greek peopled as well as Eastern Thrace. I dont know what you are trying to tell us here..that the Bulgarians are more Byzantine than the Greeks? We dear Rhezus gave you much of your identity. Your letters...your religion. Constantinople was always important for you, too. But you have never been Konstantinoupolites. You were always outside the walls. Despite the fact that you had tried countless times to conquer them; always in vain.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 13, 2010 6:32:36 GMT -5
You guys are cramped...Berlusconi is the best, his comments are hilarious exactly because of his age. Personally I like such politicians a lot. But...its also important that they are competent in practice. Then...they will always get my vote.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 12, 2010 17:36:23 GMT -5
The Kurds are our hope. They are very important. Them...and the Russians.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 11, 2010 17:52:53 GMT -5
and now?
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 11, 2010 17:25:36 GMT -5
pffffff look who is talking......
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 11, 2010 17:02:13 GMT -5
Do me a favour thracian and read some history. Read who WE are and read who YOU are...and then we can talk again..
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 11, 2010 17:01:04 GMT -5
New vodafone commercial more! ;D LOL.. that language doesn't seem to match the dress the new fyromians insomniac you are unbelievably funny sometimes...
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 11, 2010 12:47:19 GMT -5
You dont know what you are talking about...but how should you...your people hasnt been the victim of arbitrary massacres and genocides. You should feel sorry for yourself first of all since you are not willing to recognize the genocides that have taken place by the Turks in the course of history. Your people will pay one day for that...and I hope I will be still alive to experience it. If I feel hate for Turkey...its because of people like you...who think everything is ok between both peoples. But Kurdistan is growing...and the day will come when your people will pay for the past. History makes cycles.....instead of Armenians and Greeks...it will be Turks that will be butchered then on Asia Minor earth. The denied massacres of your forefathers will be your fatality.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 11, 2010 11:45:24 GMT -5
First of all the numbers are a joke (and dont come now with "human lifes can not be countervailed") in comparison with the Christians that have been massacred in the course of history and secondly every killed Turk was a killed invader in the end. Dont expect humanity. The Greeks did never occupy turkish land. Whenever we attacked the Turks we attacked invaders and occupying forces of our lands.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 11, 2010 10:51:02 GMT -5
Things are not that easy. The Turks have harmed our people too much...I cant forgive and never will. Its very easy to say to someone who you did expel like an animal to come back afterwards...but did you ever wonder how he does feel? Ever asked the Jews who survived the Holocaust if they want to go back to Germany? You can not pretend friendship after 600 years of hatred at that. Thing is...we did not harm you. You came to our lands...not vice versa. Its easy for you to say lets be friends because you are living on our territories. If you were in our position you wouldnt feel differently from me. I feel the Turks have to pay back a lot before we can talk about friendship. Whenever we will talk about history we will always be enemies. If I was a Turk I wouldnt be as self righteous as you are though. I would definitely respect the history of Greeks on my country's territory. Hardly anyone of you does. And here in the forums no one does. You are relativizing everything.
You come and kill millions of Christians and afterwards offer your friendship according to the principle "lets forget everything!"? No...never. I prefer to be open enemies forever instead of doing sth like that.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 11, 2010 7:35:01 GMT -5
I wished so much we had had a Napoleon Zervas for Thrace...
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 11, 2010 6:45:53 GMT -5
There is no Greek minority in Turkey sorry no problem. We are ok with that...99% of the Greek minority is anyway living in Greece today thanks to your country's policy.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 11, 2010 4:37:49 GMT -5
Yea because they have offered so much to Europe already....are Papadopoulo pou theloun...
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 10, 2010 19:25:34 GMT -5
There is no turkish minority in Greece, sorry.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 10, 2010 19:24:44 GMT -5
I can confirm, same fact here in Sweden. Educated Turks or middle class ppl you won't find many of them here. I don't think they would ever leave TR for a factory job abroad. These ppl had a life at their home. Well known was the fact that the ones who came, were mostly those from the south-east, poor and uneducated. And you can also see it on their faces - kurds, a total lack of sofistication. Often adressed as "the kebab boys". hahah Hellboy, is that you on the pic? I'd like to see Janni and thracian's pics, come on guys.. you have the audacity to call other people to post their pic?
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 10, 2010 14:48:03 GMT -5
A good alternative to a ban is imo to give them a posting-limit. 10 posts per day for example which will automatically force them to give some thought to what they write. Its a good method to educate them. If they prove themselves they will get their "normal" (instigator-) status back...knowing very well that they will be put back to the limited posting-status if they start again b!tching around... This should be the ultima ratio in my opinion.
We had this system in the old forums....but I havent seen that here yet. Dont know if it works with the ones here.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 10, 2010 14:32:43 GMT -5
This man is such a bungler...so incompetent in just every field. If he wasnt the son of Andreas Papandreou he would be cleaning toilets today...he said the naturalization is a human right some weeks ago, lol.
But apparently only the Greek society can be stupid enough to elect someone like him. Everyone gets what he deserves...the Grecos deserve both Papandreou and the coming naturalized South Asians. I forgot the national bankruptcy...thats what they deserve most of all.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 10, 2010 12:20:53 GMT -5
You are our favourite Indian. Wanna get the Greek citizenship? ;D
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 10, 2010 12:13:48 GMT -5
You can not compare Greece to countries like Canada or the USA. Greece and the Greeks are a country and people with strong history and identity. The American countries are modern entities and the people are to 90% or more descendants of people who were living 300 years or less ago outside of the whole American continent. Besides there might be a Canadian citizenship but there is not something like a Canadian people...in terms of a national tribe.
Personally I dont have a problem if Europeans get the citizenship...especially not if they are Balkanians. What I dont like is the idea of South Asian Greeks and things like that. These people will not assimilate. And next to that, they are very often muslims. Greece does not have the capacities to make such steps. We are neither Germany, nor France nor Great Britain. We are small...and weak...no economic power...nothing...we have to protect ourselves from such naturalizations. The Greek government acts like Greece is a overdeveloped country, modern, rich, dynamic, cosmopolitan. This decision is based on pure fiction. We are about to overtake ourselves...again...just like with the Euro. And the annoying part is this is just happening for some votes...poor Greece. The great majority of Greeks is btw clearly against these mass naturalizations. Ever wondered why..?
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