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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jun 25, 2008 10:49:28 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised for you are known as TurkAlbanians and we kicked the Turks out...They were occupiers as well as the people who sided with the Turks. . Saharan, did you read article, after reading that if you want more i can post from Fallmayer, G. Finlay, Anastasia Karakasidou ect ...cheers!
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Post by libofsha on Jun 25, 2008 10:59:12 GMT -5
would you please? i wanna read
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Jun 25, 2008 11:11:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised for you are known as TurkAlbanians and we kicked the Turks out...They were occupiers as well as the people who sided with the Turks. . Saharan, did you read article, after reading that if you want more i can post from Fallmayer, G. Finlay, Anastasia Karakasidou ect ...cheers! FIRST OF ALL LEARN HOW TO SPELL THE AUTHORS NAME. It is Fallmerayer and not fallmayer. Okay? Here is a quote from a book called "Inside Hitlers Greece." " Fallmerayer's thesis that racial continuity with the ancients had been interrupted by the seventh-century Slavic invasions found adherents in the Third Reich. Though the Greeks stood well above the Serbs in the Nazi racial hierarchy, Hitlers initial admiration for the brave performance of the Greek army in April 1941 wore off under the pressure of sabotage attacks on occupation forces. The Germans harbored no hatred against the Greeks, wrote General Hubert Lanz. On the contrary they admired the great past and lofty culture of Hellas. But how would they react to guerilla warfare?" Taken from Inside Hitlers Greece Page 158 Author: Mark Mazower Prijes, Please come to the year 2008.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jun 25, 2008 11:15:24 GMT -5
what funny article this is nothing about this thread...did you read him's book?, what do you think about Anastasia Karakasidou? (greek anthropolog-archeologist)
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Jun 25, 2008 11:26:15 GMT -5
what funny article this is nothing about this thread...did you read him's book?, what do you think about Anastasia Karakasidou? (greek anthropolog-archeologist) That is not an article. I actually pulled the book out and retyped what I saw on the page. Notice the "found adherents in the Third Reich," Roflmao!!! What this is implying is that you think somewhat along the lines of someone in the Third Reich. You like Fallmerayer and so did the Nazis. What was their motivation in accepting Fallmerayers ideas? Hmmmmm..... the Greeks were shooting at them! You think that my posting is funny? If you were smart enough you would realize that it totally discredits your arguments. If you didn't notice the entire world actually thinks the opposite of the THIRD REICH. But hey what does a toothless hillbilly Albanian like yourself know about anything? How do you think the Germans reacted to the Greek sabotage attacks against them? With propaganda? Yes. YOUR READING IT NOW.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jun 25, 2008 11:26:54 GMT -5
some humuo,r for pjerdhosh ;D
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Jun 25, 2008 11:29:47 GMT -5
some humuo,r for pjerdhosh ;D I think his name is pyrros? Prijesdardiklikin. I am american and was just wondering if all Albanian T.V is of such low budget quality?
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jun 25, 2008 11:29:51 GMT -5
what does here Nasis with Fallmayer which lived 200 years before Nasis?, it is just your propaganda because you can't responce the truth.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jun 25, 2008 11:32:12 GMT -5
some humuo,r for pjerdhosh ;D I think his name is pyrros? Prijesdardiklikin. I am american and was just wondering if all Albanian T.V is of such low budget quality? watch it Pataqi, make fun
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Jun 25, 2008 11:32:52 GMT -5
what does here Nasis with Fallmayer which lived 200 years before Nasis?, it is just your propaganda because you can't responce the truth. FALLMERAYER AND NOT fallmayer! You can't even spell the guys name properly? What does this have to with FALLMERAYER? Please spell it right animal. I am just pointing out how his texts became important to the Third Reich. OBVIOUSLY THE THIRD REICH WAS WRONG AND SO ARE YOU. My god you are dumb you pale pimply assed muslim pink d**k Albo.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jun 25, 2008 11:39:46 GMT -5
look how insult gypsies from Romania who became griikis...cigani assdumb, learn to debate makalas s**t
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Jun 25, 2008 11:57:36 GMT -5
look how insult gypsies from Romania who became griikis...cigani assdumb, learn to debate makalas s**t How can I debate with an adult who has the education of my eight year old nephew? You cannot even spell or form a proper sentence. Clearly your incompetence, ignorance and insults are a barrier to our communication with each other. I am not the one with the problem, it is you. Work on it and when you are on my level, then we can talk. Until then continue reading the NEO NAZI CULTURAL GEM, FALLMERAYER. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 25, 2008 12:16:45 GMT -5
some humuo,r for pjerdhosh ;D I think his name is pyrros? Prijesdardiklikin. I am american and was just wondering if all Albanian T.V is of such low budget quality? Correct! This Dardana bi tch abuses his freedom here.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Jun 25, 2008 12:22:49 GMT -5
Prijes why did you lie and twist the words around of that article that you posted on page 10 of this thread? You added the word Greek to the list of ethnicities that have been influenced by Albanian, when the original article did not use the word Greek in that list. THIS WAS WHAT YOU POSTED! On the contrary Albanian language as well racially have influeced them: www.fwf.ac.at/en/public_relations/press/pv200805-en.htmlThe researchers are following various leads which suggest that Albanian played a key role in the Balkan Sprachbund. For example, it is likely that Albanian is the source of the suffixed definite article in Romanian, Bulgarian, Greek and Macedonian, as this has been a feature of Albanian since ancient times.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Jun 25, 2008 12:25:21 GMT -5
Prijes why did you lie and twist the words around of that article that you posted on page 10 of this thread? You added the word Greek to the list of ethnicities that have been influenced by Albanian, when the original article did not use the word Greek in that list. THIS WAS WHAT YOU POSTED! On the contrary Albanian language as well racially have influeced them: www.fwf.ac.at/en/public_relations/press/pv200805-en.htmlThe researchers are following various leads which suggest that Albanian played a key role in the Balkan Sprachbund. For example, it is likely that Albanian is the source of the suffixed definite article in Romanian, Bulgarian, Greek and Macedonian, as this has been a feature of Albanian since ancient times. Now this is the exact sentence from the article that you so deceitfully changed. Here you go, liar. "For example, it is likely that Albanian is the source of the suffixed definite article in Romanian, Bulgarian and Macedonian, as this has been a feature of Albanian since ancient times."
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Post by ioan on Jun 25, 2008 12:57:21 GMT -5
Prijes why did you lie and twist the words around of that article that you posted on page 10 of this thread? You added the word Greek to the list of ethnicities that have been influenced by Albanian, when the original article did not use the word Greek in that list. THIS WAS WHAT YOU POSTED! On the contrary Albanian language as well racially have influeced them: www.fwf.ac.at/en/public_relations/press/pv200805-en.htmlThe researchers are following various leads which suggest that Albanian played a key role in the Balkan Sprachbund. For example, it is likely that Albanian is the source of the suffixed definite article in Romanian, Bulgarian, Greek and Macedonian, as this has been a feature of Albanian since ancient times. Now this is the exact sentence from the article that you so deceitfully changed. Here you go, liar. "For example, it is likely that Albanian is the source of the suffixed definite article in Romanian, Bulgarian and Macedonian, as this has been a feature of Albanian since ancient times." Actually the most probable thing is the Illirian, the Thracian and the Greek used to have common features, one of them: suffixed definite article. Those grammatic features remained though the lexic was changed: thus the Dacian died but some grammatic features remained in the Romanian, most probably the same happened with the Thracian (including Peonian) and Bulgarian (plus the fyrom dialect). Greek language didnt change dramatically and most probably Albanian too. So it wasnt an influence of the Albanian, more like gramatic rules of died languages (excluding Greek/albanian) that remained in Romanian/Bulgarian. At least that is a hypothesis of some linguists. Plus how do we know if suffixed definite article didnt pass from Greek into Albanian or from Romanian and Bulgarian? How do we know this was a feature of Albanian since its the least studied/known language. It was written the latest on the bolkans I think.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jun 25, 2008 13:34:48 GMT -5
Ha ha ha Good job Panagiotopoule!
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Post by Niklianos on Jun 25, 2008 14:54:28 GMT -5
Prijes why did you lie and twist the words around of that article that you posted on page 10 of this thread? You added the word Greek to the list of ethnicities that have been influenced by Albanian, when the original article did not use the word Greek in that list. THIS WAS WHAT YOU POSTED! On the contrary Albanian language as well racially have influeced them: www.fwf.ac.at/en/public_relations/press/pv200805-en.htmlThe researchers are following various leads which suggest that Albanian played a key role in the Balkan Sprachbund. For example, it is likely that Albanian is the source of the suffixed definite article in Romanian, Bulgarian, Greek and Macedonian, as this has been a feature of Albanian since ancient times. Now this is the exact sentence from the article that you so deceitfully changed. Here you go, liar. "For example, it is likely that Albanian is the source of the suffixed definite article in Romanian, Bulgarian and Macedonian, as this has been a feature of Albanian since ancient times." And might I add, there is no way that Albanian influenced Greek considering that the oldest known Albanian attest only to the time after the death of Christ! Greece has been spoken for more than 4000 years! Greeks have been in the region longer than the Illyrians. The Illyrians are late comers with the Indo-European migration into the Balkans. If anything it is the Greeks who have influenced the Illyrian language which in turn may have influenced Albanian once the ancestors of the Albanians came out of the mountain hideaways. Let me add further that Illyrian does not denote a single spoken language and culture. It is a loose term used for people who may have had related languages and culture, just as with the Thracians. The Ilyrians lived in a broad area which cover the land of several modern countries. These include Serbia, Montenegro, Albania, Croatia. Illyrian does not belong to just one people but obviously to several groups. But then again, until we actually know the various Illyrian groups and how they were different no one can logically claim that they are the only true descendants of the 'Illyrians'.
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Post by Toskaliku on Jun 25, 2008 15:20:57 GMT -5
Influence isnt just based on age, its also based on locality and close proximity of speakers. Near the city of Vlora, for example, is the Greek-speaking village of Narta. The people there have been surrounded by Albanians for hundreds of years and have traded and mingled continuously. The result is that much of the speech from there includes heavy borrowings from Albanian to the extent that their speech is somewhat mixed at times, especially noticeable when they come to the market to sell their stuff.
Enough of this can produce significant changes in the language itself, not just word borrowings and languages start to sound similar, thats the concept of a sprachsbund. It doesnt matter which language is older as age has no real meaning.
Plus, you cant say which people were there first. Greek is recorded first since they had all the prerequisites to develop faster(significant intermingling with other people is the main one) and therefore were able to get their language into script faster. Thats not a sign that they were there first though. Keep in mind that the Basques are among the oldest people in Europe, yet are they the first to record speech in writing? When was their language first written?
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Jun 25, 2008 15:51:47 GMT -5
Influence isnt just based on age, its also based on locality and close proximity of speakers. Near the city of Vlora, for example, is the Greek-speaking village of Narta. The people there have been surrounded by Albanians for hundreds of years and have traded and mingled continuously. The result is that much of the speech from there includes heavy borrowings from Albanian to the extent that their speech is somewhat mixed at times, especially noticeable when they come to the market to sell their stuff. Enough of this can produce significant changes in the language itself, not just word borrowings and languages start to sound similar, thats the concept of a sprachsbund. It doesnt matter which language is older as age has no real meaning. Plus, you cant say which people were there first. Greek is recorded first since they had all the prerequisites to develop faster(significant intermingling with other people is the main one) and therefore were able to get their language into script faster. Thats not a sign that they were there first though. Keep in mind that the Basques are among the oldest people in Europe, yet are they the first to record speech in writing? When was their language first written? Toskali, You contradict just about everything every other Albo has said including yourself in these boards. How could your language have contact with any others when you claim Albos lived in tribal settings high up in the mountains? Of course these tribal settlements could isolate you guys, but if that was the case you definitely did not have an influence on anyones language!!! Think about it!!! You cannot have your cake and eat it too. You have to choose: either your a descendant of some illiterate, primitive Albo tribesman or what can we conclude?
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