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Post by terroreign on Jan 17, 2011 19:59:17 GMT -5
shejtani -
They are not propaganda sites, and the last one is by a neutral author. Edith Durham was not neutral..far from it...I can bet she had sexual relations with half of Malesija...
As for the Gypsies and Vlachs, this is a common exaggeration...the only Gypsies who do Slava are mixed ones...the only Vlachs who do Slava are the ones that are from Serbia and go to the Serbian church (Slava is canonized in the Serbian Church afterall)....basically they're people who if you asked them informally what they are, they'd say Serbian.
You're claiming the Northern Albs as having no Serb blood or characteristics...and then you use these heavily Serbianized people to back it up?
Marko Miljanov speaks of Slavas amongst the Malesors and amongst the Montenegrins....he clearly states that Malesors come to Montenegrin slavas and vice-verca
I don't see how you're so taken aback by this...Albanians probably have the most borrowed culture in the Balkans
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 18, 2011 2:28:19 GMT -5
Before Edith Durham wrote High Albaniashe traveled extensively through Serb lands including Montenegro. She wrote the book Through the Lands of the Serb wherein there are many negative portrayals of Albanians. She even admitted to being biased in favor of Serbs and against Albanians prior to her Albanian journeys, budall. So if anything atleast we gave her a better fuck . Its ironic that you would write that since you're the guy who borrows whatever identity in the Balkans as you see fit for yourself.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 18, 2011 2:53:31 GMT -5
Before Edith Durham wrote High Albaniashe traveled extensively through Serb lands including Montenegro. She wrote the book Through the Lands of the Serb wherein there are many negative portrayals of Albanians. She even admitted to being biased in favor of Serbs and against Albanians prior to her Albanian journeys, budall. So if anything atleast we gave her a better f**k . Naw, she was just pissed off after we dumped her a** Is it? As far as I know Montenegrin and Serb are the same identity, pidho
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Post by terroreign on Jan 20, 2011 0:50:57 GMT -5
Wedding in Krajina/Kraje, people speaking a mix of Albanian and Serbian....and what a beautiful flag they got waving ;D
Another generation and this entire area will be 100% assimilated
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Post by terroreign on Jan 20, 2011 1:05:36 GMT -5
Here's more It's really beautiful-the old women speak albanian amongst eachother, however to the kids they speak Serbian
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Post by ljubotan on Jan 20, 2011 11:11:48 GMT -5
Krivo, that's nothing to brag about bro! Who wants Montenegrin Serbs who were Albanian a generation ago??
I admire old Montenegrin patriots and history, but with a lot of the clans in eastern CG they were Albanian just under 250yrs ago. Maybe that's why many of the personality traits, customs, revenge is the exact same as the Malesors.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 20, 2011 13:28:03 GMT -5
When I see real Montenegrins no matter what language they speak I see Albanians
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Post by terroreign on Jan 20, 2011 16:11:19 GMT -5
Krivo, that's nothing to brag about bro! Who wants Montenegrin Serbs who were Albanian a generation ago?? I admire old Montenegrin patriots and history, but with a lot of the clans in eastern CG they were Albanian just under 250yrs ago. Maybe that's why many of the personality traits, customs, revenge is the exact same as the Malesors. To me they're not albanians, just Serbs that were albanized during Ottoman times....remember Skadar/Shkoder was a SERB city back in the day.
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Post by Arthur Kane on Jan 20, 2011 17:06:02 GMT -5
Krivo, that's nothing to brag about bro! Who wants Montenegrin Serbs who were Albanian a generation ago?? I admire old Montenegrin patriots and history, but with a lot of the clans in eastern CG they were Albanian just under 250yrs ago. Maybe that's why many of the personality traits, customs, revenge is the exact same as the Malesors. To me they're not albanians, just Serbs that were albanized during Ottoman times....remember Skadar/Shkoder was a SERB city back in the day. Shkoder a Serb city? Fail.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 20, 2011 17:11:50 GMT -5
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Post by toskaliku on Jan 20, 2011 17:56:12 GMT -5
To me they're not albanians, just Serbs that were albanized during Ottoman times....remember Skadar/Shkoder was a SERB city back in the day. Shkoder a Serb city? Fail. It doesn't exist. There is not even a single serb cemetery. The onl orthodox church is for Albanian who migrated north to work in the city. There is not.one.shred.of.memory. Thats how it should be. The Serbs in there should be absolutely exterminated from memory. And your comment is great evidence of how successfully that is going.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 20, 2011 19:19:09 GMT -5
^Serb cemetary was destroyed, Serbs built the walls to that city during King Vukasin's time...thank us for the town and your blood.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 20, 2011 20:35:08 GMT -5
"I admire old Montenegrin patriots and history, but with a lot of the clans in eastern CG they were Albanian just under 250yrs ago. Maybe that's why many of the personality traits, customs, revenge is the exact same as the Malesors."
Ljubo, many Montenegrins from Albania were Albanianised, same occurred in Montenegro and kosovo. Slavic tribes from the mountains of Albania linked the Montenegrins and Vardarians, good example is the Mijaks (originally from Albania). Why do you think Slavic customs of the Vardarians is exact with the slavs from kosovo and montenegro.
Ljubo, many famous Montenegrin historical figures came from Albania, take for example the tsar of BuLgarska *Constantine Bodin* known in BuLgarski sources as Peter III
PS I advise you to learn about the Serbian Gorani tribe of Albania and Kosovo. This is an excellent study how Serbs transformed from christians to moslems and to Albanians (partially, in this case).
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Post by terroreign on Jan 20, 2011 22:18:39 GMT -5
^100% on point brate
Ovi u tom vremenu nijesu imali drugi nacin da se prezivjet u svom rodnom mjestu no da se posiptarit i uzet spas tako...no zalosno ali istina je...
Ali dan danas se stvari okrenu na dobru, ovi bivsi Srbi u krajinskim mjestima CG pocnu da zbore na srpskom jezkom i da se mjesa crnogorskom/srpskom narodom...docice vrijeme kad albanca nema tuda a to sigurno, proces vec je poceo i ce trajati dok CG postoji. Ljudi ka Ferhat Dinosa presjednik albanskog stranka Crnoj Gori se predstavljaju ovakvu trend, vise govore na naskim no njihovim! a djeca su druga prica!
Aj pomoz Bog
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Post by drinus123 on Jan 21, 2011 0:05:46 GMT -5
Northern Albania has been for most of the time free of any outside influence. And Shkoder has mostly a catholic character. This has always have been 100% Albanian-inhabited territory. You guys are so ridiculous. Croats should claim Durres as Croatian( because of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Croatia ) lol...
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Post by terroreign on Jan 21, 2011 3:40:16 GMT -5
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Post by drinus123 on Jan 21, 2011 4:14:14 GMT -5
^ This is what we call falsification of history. In other words, take albanian history and reverse it to fit serbian point of view. Shkodra was/is the capital of Illyria/Albania.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 21, 2011 4:20:37 GMT -5
^It's by unbiased and reputable authors drinus, not to mention Americans.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 21, 2011 22:14:54 GMT -5
My eyes were when l saw the Youtube vid.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 22, 2011 5:18:41 GMT -5
^What exactly makes you think its in Bar? There are only about 100 albanians in the city...there were more than 300 people at this wedding, nearly all speaking Albanian.
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